Everyday Jock Wear
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"Gabe R" <GabeR…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19305-417ABB72-262@storefull-3314.bay.webtv.net… > Those UPS guys have to be aware of their appearance because when they > go into some of these offices, the ladies are looking them over from > head to crotch.
Hey, not just the ladies are checking out the UPS guys! This past summer we had the hottest guy delivering to the store I work at: dark haired, muscular, great legs and the tiniest bit of ink peaking out from under his rolled up sleeves. I got wood just seeing his truck pull into the parking lot. I didn’t see any strap or briefs lines and believe me, I checked! Sadly, our route is the trainee route and now he’s gone off to break some other guy’s heart… Tim
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I wear a swimmer jock everyday without any problems of chaffing. I wear a cup only to make a bigger bulge and get extra attention.
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I have about 20 narrow band jockstraps (swimmer jocks) and wear them whenever I’m jogging,etc. Usually under or over a pair of briefs.
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I have never understood people wearing a jock over briefs. Defeats the purpose of a pouch
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Is there anyone using a jockstrap on a daily basis without chaffing your leg from the straps? One more thing, is there anyone out there using a jockstrap with cup on a daily basis, whether it’s at work or not?
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I’m strapped almost every day and don’t have a problem with the straps….my favorite is a bike university with the black/blue label..older version not the newer one with the white label… no particular reason except i like the feel of a jock ! sorta like a hand holding you all day long !
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In article <10mm7ludco60…@corp.supernews.com>, "juanalay" <juana…@hotmail.com> wrote: > Is there anyone using a jockstrap on a daily basis without chaffing your leg > from the straps? > One more thing, is there anyone out there using a jockstrap with cup on a > daily basis, whether it’s at work or not?
I always wear a jock strap or a cup. You need to find the right material. The newer ones made of synthetic materials tend to chafe more than the older cotton jocks. If you like to wear a cup, wear Bike boxer briefs and the cup supporter over that. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com> jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml
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I wear jocks almost every day. I always sleep in a jock, too. Never really had a prob with straps. Depends on the jock. If it is a bit too small, the ass straps might be too tight around your ass cheeks and could possibly chafe. As for cups, I only wear one when I’m watching baseball on TV. (I’m not an athlete, just an athletic supporter!) I like to pound my cup when the home team (SF Giants) makes a good play or gets a run. I luv it when players adjust their cups. My favorite combo is my vintage Flarico No. 42 cotton cupjock packed w/ a Bike 80 contoured hard cup. This jock holds the cup in exactly the right place to protect my boys. By the end of a game, the jockstrap is soaked with savory sweat. It never gets washed, only air-dried. –>Wearing a sturdy, ripe and raunched, vintage Futuro cotton swimmer right now. I can’t believe this thing is still alive, what with all the years of abuse it has endured. The fragrance is sexsational.
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I’m guessing he wears the boxer shorts because he probably changes out in a locker room at work sometimes when he is not going directly home. He probably wouldn’t want to be seen in a jock strap there, although some of the other drivers supposedly wear them, too. The other possibility is that he wants to avoid skid marks in his pants. Of course, the pants are brown, so what could a few skid marks hurt. Those UPS guys have to be aware of their appearance because when they go into some of these offices, the ladies are looking them over from head to crotch. He actually claims to have hit on my sister on his route, but I think the truth be told, my sister hit on him.
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I wear a jock every day. No chaffing.
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I have worn a jock everyday since JR. H.S. and my brothers do also. No big deal. Growing up on a farm means pleanty of hard work before school and after. Little time for sports. Most guys I know arround here usually wear a jock most of the time. After H.S. and trade school I got my journeymans card as an electrician. I work construction and still wear a jock every day. Usually boots, jeans, jock, gray T shirt. A sweat shirt when it gets cold. If I wear dress pants on the weekend I wear boxers over my jock. One of my brothers is a police deputy and sometimes wears a cup on the job as per recomendations at police academy. Depends as duty assignment. Lowlifes always go for the balls when they are taken down.
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I was recently at my sister’s boyfriends house while he was doing laundry. He had numerous narrow band supporters and I of course had to ask him what that was about. He explained that as a UPS driver he was always moving fast and that the first week on the job he experienced "distress" when getting into the driver’s seat. Since then he has always worn one under his boxer shorts every day.
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‘ "distress" when getting into the driver’s seat. Since then he has always worn one under his boxer shorts every day.’ ..I use to get the same "distress" when I drove a fork lift. Had to get on and off very frequently. Started wearing a jock and no more distress. I’ve never worn one under boxers though. Why would you do that? ….just curious, because I’ve pretty much gotten out of the habit of wearing underwear, but I do like to hang around the house in a loose pair of boxers. I’d rather be naked, but I have big windows and don’t like to close the shades.
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TheBillRodgerz is NOT real.
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No, you are the one causing mischief Roger. Stop it. TBR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – << Please block the numnutz. How come? Because it’s not me, and by replying you only encourage him.
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Pot calling the kettle black, arsehole? TRBR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Please block the numnutz.
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Give it up, both of you. I am the real bill rodgersz. TRBR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Quit distracting me, wobbit. Fuck you Roger, you degenerate asshole.
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Maybe so, but I am The Really Real Bill Rodgerz – accept no substitutes. TRRBR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Give it up, both of you. I am the real bill rodgersz. TRBR Quit distracting me, wobbit. Fuck you Roger, you degenerate asshole.
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Yeah right and I’m gay. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe so, but I am The Really Real Bill Rodgerz – accept no substitutes. TRRBR Give it up, both of you. I am the real bill rodgersz. TRBR Quit distracting me, wobbit. Fuck you Roger, you degenerate asshole.
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<< Yeah right and I’m gay. Are you handling that alright? Need support?
No, he wears a jock strap.
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Leave me alone, fake imposter poster. TBR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Quit distracting me, wobbit. Fuck you Roger, you degenerate asshole.
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<< Please block the numnutz. How come?
Because it’s not me, and by replying you only encourage him.
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Quit distracting me, wobbit.
Fuck you Roger, you degenerate asshole.
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We care Smurf, we care that you are a fucking pervert who likes sniffing teen girls underwear. You’ve been reported to the authorities. My advice: Bring lube. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Who 5:15 Why should I care? Why should I care? Girls of fifteen, sexually knowing The ushers are sniffing, eau -du-cologning The seats are seductive, celibate sitting Pretty girls digging prettier women Magically bored on a quiet street corner Free frustration in our minds and our toes Quiet storm water m-my generation Uppers and downers, either way blood flows Inside outside, leave me alone Inside outside, nowhere is home Inside outside, where have I been Out of my brain on the five-fifteen Out of my brain on the train Out of my brain on the train A raft in the quarry, slowly sinking Back of a lorry, holy hitching Dreadfully sorry, apple scrumping Born in a war, birthday punching He-man drag in a glittering ballroom Greyly outrageous in my high heeled shoes Tightly undone, know what they’re showing Sadly ecstatic that their heroes are news Inside outside Leave me alone Inside outside Nowhere is home Inside outside Where have I been Out of my brain on the five-fifteen Out of my brain on the train Why should I care? Why should I care? —
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<< The Who=20 5:15 Why should I care? Why should I care? Girls of fifteen, sexually knowing The ushers are sniffing, eau -du-cologning The seats are seductive, celibate sitting Pretty girls digging prettier women Magically bored on a quiet street corner Free frustration in our minds and our toes Quiet storm water m-my generation Uppers and downers, either way blood flows Inside outside, leave me alone Inside outside, nowhere is home Inside outside, where have I been Out of my brain on the five-fifteen Out of my brain on the train Out of my brain on the train A raft in the quarry, slowly sinking Back of a lorry, holy hitching Dreadfully sorry, apple scrumping Born in a war, birthday punching He-man drag in a glittering ballroom Greyly outrageous in my high heeled shoes Tightly undone, know what they’re showing Sadly ecstatic that their heroes are news Inside outside Leave me alone Inside outside Nowhere is home Inside outside Where have I been Out of my brain on the five-fifteen Out of my brain on the train Why should I care? Why should I care? Grande Station Track 8* ~waves~ [Hoot!] Time for school! Superkewl! Jump me over that hedge ~ See me hang, deftly From that ledge, Off East 79th, central Park’s edge ~ A cast removed, reassembled Near Globe’s Theatre, Morning Wood. Midsummer night’s dream, Or The Winter of Our Discontent? Tempest racks my heart, Or lost-wax sculpture method? Sealed with wax, Cast me a perfected form Of me. Knowing act Of betrayal, gratefully forgiven. Send me on an errand, Promise an unbarren landscape. Richness looms. Garden blooms. Or had gotten lost, Infinite array of beautiful Crystal rooms, teasing me toward A centre I could not find or see ~ But clearly heard. Ding Dong! Yes, you rang? O know! Look who answered! _______ Blog, or dog? Who knows. But if you see my lost pup, please ping me! <A HREF="http://journals.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo"http://journal s.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo</A
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Good one, but I think you should have posted: Behind Blue Eyes The Who No one knows what it’s like To be the bad man To be the sad man Behind blue eyes No one knows what it’s like To be hated To be fated To telling only lies But my dreams They aren’t as empty As my conscience seems to be I have hours, only lonely My love is vengeance That’s never free No one knows what it’s like To feel these feelings Like I do And I blame you No one bites back as hard On their anger None of my pain and woe Can show through But my dreams They aren’t as empty As my conscience seems to be I have hours, only lonely My love is vengeance That’s never free When my fist clenches, crack it open Before I use it and lose my cool When I smile, tell me some bad news Before I laugh and act like a fool If I swallow anything evil Put your finger down my throat If I shiver, please give me a blanket Keep me warm, let me wear your coat No one knows what it’s like To be the bad man To be the sad man Behind blue eyes
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Quit distracting me, wobbit. TBR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Please block the numnutz.
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I Can See For Miles The Who I know you’ve deceived me, now here’s a surprise I know that you have ’cause there’s magic in my eyes I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles Oh yeah If you think that I don’t know about the little tricks you’ve played And never see you when deliberately you put things in my way Well, here’s a poke at you You’re gonna choke on it too You’re gonna lose that smile Beacuse all the while I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles Oh yeah You took advantage of my trust in you when I was so far away I saw you holding lots of other guys and now you’ve got the nerve to say That you still want me Well, that’s as may be But you gotta stand trial Because all the while I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles Oh yeah I know you’ve deceived me, now here’s a surprise I know that you have ’cause there’s magic in my eyes I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles Oh yeah The Eiffel Tower and the Taj Mahal are mine to see on clear days You thought that I would need a crystal ball to see right through the haze Well, here’s a poke at you You’re gonna choke on it too You’re gonna lose that smile Beacuse all the while I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and miles I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles TBR
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Please block the numnutz.
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The Who 5:15 Why should I care? Why should I care? Girls of fifteen, sexually knowing The ushers are sniffing, eau -du-cologning The seats are seductive, celibate sitting Pretty girls digging prettier women Magically bored on a quiet street corner Free frustration in our minds and our toes Quiet storm water m-my generation Uppers and downers, either way blood flows Inside outside, leave me alone Inside outside, nowhere is home Inside outside, where have I been Out of my brain on the five-fifteen Out of my brain on the train Out of my brain on the train A raft in the quarry, slowly sinking Back of a lorry, holy hitching Dreadfully sorry, apple scrumping Born in a war, birthday punching He-man drag in a glittering ballroom Greyly outrageous in my high heeled shoes Tightly undone, know what they’re showing Sadly ecstatic that their heroes are news Inside outside Leave me alone Inside outside Nowhere is home Inside outside Where have I been Out of my brain on the five-fifteen Out of my brain on the train Why should I care? Why should I care?
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posting lots of pictures
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"Bodacelli" <Bodace…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1ep5d.118680$D%.3991@attbi_s51… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>> Don’t let me stop you… >>> Respectfully, I won’t! >> I will upload then to you with your unlimited amount of time and ask you >> to post them to where you wish?
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"LeatherBoy" <Leather…@comcast.org> wrote in message
news:6xp5d.112366$MQ5.105010@attbi_s52… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Bodacelli" <Bodace…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1ep5d.118680$D%.3991@attbi_s51… >>>>> Don’t let me stop you… >>>> Respectfully, I won’t! >>> I will upload then to you with your unlimited amount of time and ask you >>> to post them to where you wish?
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It is a take off on the great masters full figured body style.
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LeatherBoy wrote: >>Index pages are good. You should also uniquely name each post according to >>what >>picture it contains and indicate which post contains the index. 
> I am using a program "News On Rocketfuel" and simply cannot figure out how > to get the individual title of the image in the subject box. > Maybe there is a free program out there that is easier to work with? > This is the only group I post to anymore (zero ingrates)!
Try PowerPost. Google for it. — Travis in Shoreline Washington
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"Travis" <Travis.Shorelin…@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:XzK5d.3806$8H1.1540@trnddc08… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> LeatherBoy wrote: >>>Index pages are good. You should also uniquely name each post according >>>to what >>>picture it contains and indicate which post contains the index. >> I am using a program "News On Rocketfuel" and simply cannot figure out >> how to get the individual title of the image in the subject box. >> Maybe there is a free program out there that is easier to work with? >> This is the only group I post to anymore (zero ingrates)! > Try PowerPost. Google for it. > — > Travis in Shoreline Washington
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> Don’t let me stop you…
Respectfully, I won’t!
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>> Don’t let me stop you… > Respectfully, I won’t!
I will upload then to you with your unlimited amount of time and ask you to post them to where you wish?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> Don’t let me stop you… >> Respectfully, I won’t! > I will upload then to you with your unlimited amount of time and ask you > to post them to where you wish?
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> Why not post the pictures on Yahoo or Gercities instead? They’ll last > longer > that way.
It is an issue of time, if they allowed batch uploads to the files section, the pictures shrink to nothing the sizes.
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In article <X0k5d.117082$D%.20742@attbi_s51>, "LeatherBoy" <Leather…@comcast.org> wrote: > > Why not post the pictures on Yahoo or Gercities instead? They’ll last > > longer > > that way. > It is an issue of time, if they allowed batch uploads to the files section, > the pictures shrink to nothing the sizes.
Well, okay, then. Post your pictures here. Give your posts all the same name and make the indexes hard to find and useless because all the posts have the same name anyway. Don’t use a web-hosting service; don’t learn to use alternate tools; don’t use technology appropriately. Just let your pictures appear for a day or two on a newsgroup and be lost and gone forever off most news servers. Don’t let me stop you… — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com> jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml
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In article <OWf5d.109597$MQ5.90031@attbi_s52>, "LeatherBoy" <Leather…@comcast.org> wrote: > > Index pages are good. You should also uniquely name each post according to > > what picture it contains and indicate which post contains the index. > I am using a program "News On Rocketfuel" and simply cannot figure out how to > get the individual title of the image in the subject box. > Maybe there is a free program out there that is easier to work with? > This is the only group I post to anymore (zero ingrates)!
Why not post the pictures on Yahoo or Gercities instead? They’ll last longer that way. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com> jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml
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> Index pages are good. You should also uniquely name each post according to > what > picture it contains and indicate which post contains the index.
I am using a program "News On Rocketfuel" and simply cannot figure out how to get the individual title of the image in the subject box. Maybe there is a free program out there that is easier to work with? This is the only group I post to anymore (zero ingrates)!
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Index pages are good. You should also uniquely name each post according to what picture it contains and indicate which post contains the index. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com> jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml
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Yes, for large groupings of posts only. As for the rest of said tasks/ demands, beggars can’t be choosers… Remember, you have a ‘Kill’ filter, use it! [For anyone you're unhappy with] That is what it is there for. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ posting lots of pictures >> Group: alt.support.jock-strap >> Date: Sat, Sep 25, 2004, 6:44am (EDT+4) >> From: jockw…@timberwoof.com (Jockwoof)
Index pages are good. You should also uniquely name each post according to what picture it contains and indicate which post contains the index. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com> jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml
LSU vs. Oregon State
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Love to see it, too. "J. Michael Morse" <mmorse…@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:chliu6$nkk$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Did anyone watch this game this past Saturday? I only saw the > first half, but apparently a man with a well defined physique > bolted out onto the field during half time. Some say he was > totally naked, others say he had on a jock strap. Would love > to have footage of him either way . . . > Michael
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Did anyone watch this game this past Saturday? I only saw the first half, but apparently a man with a well defined physique bolted out onto the field during half time. Some say he was totally naked, others say he had on a jock strap. Would love to have footage of him either way . . . Michael
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Underwear in Public Not Indecent, Massachusetts Court Says
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But we knew this already… Tim =================================== Underwear in Public Not Indecent, Court Says Aug 27, 10:14 am ET CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (Reuters) – Wearing underwear and nothing else in public does not constitute indecency, a Massachusetts court declared on Thursday as it tossed out charges against six animal rights protesters. Members of the group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals were arrested and charged with indecency and disturbing the peace after a chilly rally in March near Harvard University where they stripped to their skivvies and staged a nearly naked pillow fight to protest against fur. Six months and three court dates later, a Cambridge, Massachusetts, judge threw out the indecency charges against all six PETA members. All but one of the protesters — PETA Vice President Dan Mathews — were also cleared of disturbing the peace. Mathews was ordered to pay a $300 fine. Mathews told Reuters he was relieved that the indecent exposure charges were dismissed, noting that a conviction on such a charge would have forced him and the other demonstrators to register as sex offenders in Massachusetts.
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Gives me an idea: let’s create an organization called PETAS: People for the Ethical Treatment of Athletic Supporters. The jockstrap -is- an endangered species, afterall. Members could demonstrate outside of men’s locker rooms proudly wearing just their jocks. [Wearing a Top Dog swimmer supporter presently.]
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(crossposts removed) "Tim" <s…@spam.spam> wrote in message
news:G6OXc.1261$6o3.1062@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… > But we knew this already… > Tim > =================================== > Underwear in Public Not Indecent, Court Says > Aug 27, 10:14 am ET > CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (Reuters) – Wearing underwear and nothing else in public > does not constitute indecency, a Massachusetts court declared on Thursday as > it tossed out charges against six animal rights protesters.
… > … — PETA Vice President Dan Mathews > told Reuters he was relieved that the indecent exposure charges were > dismissed, noting that a conviction on such a charge would have forced him > and the other demonstrators to register as sex offenders in Massachusetts.
But Matthews was mortified that the indecent exposure charges were first sent to Small Claims Court, then dismissed when the evidence wouldn’t stand up.
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"Robert E. Lewis" <rle…@brazosport.cc.tx.us> wrote in message news:iYQXc.569$Fg2.175105@newshog.newsread.com… > But Matthews was mortified that the indecent exposure charges were first > sent to Small Claims Court, then dismissed when the evidence wouldn’t stand > up.
*rimshot* Isn’t he great, folks? Let’s have him back real soon! Don’t forget to tip your waitresses and bartenders Funny stuff! Tim
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Does this include jockstraps?
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In article <3686-412FF1D6…@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net>, sexout…@webtv.net wrote: > Does this include jockstraps?
In some cities, no. In San Francisco, you have to have at least a 1" wide strip of cloth up the back. So a dance belt with a wide center strap is "decent" enough but a thong or jock strap is not. But at events such as Folsom Street Fair, the cops overlook (hell, sometimes even admire) those who go buck-naked. There are always a few nude runners at the Bay to Breakers run. The cops let them run, but arrest them at the finish line. I don’t know what the cops would do with someone who was wearing only a standard jock strap. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com> jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml
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"Jockwoof" <jockw…@NOtimberSPAMwoof.com> wrote in message
news:jockwoof-18BD88.18015828082004@typhoon.sonic.net… > In article <3686-412FF1D6…@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net>, > sexout…@webtv.net wrote: > > Does this include jockstraps? > In some cities, no. > In San Francisco, you have to have at least a 1" wide strip of cloth up > the back. So a dance belt with a wide center strap is "decent" enough > but a thong or jock strap is not. But at events such as Folsom Street > Fair, the cops overlook (hell, sometimes even admire) those who go > buck-naked. There are always a few nude runners at the Bay to Breakers > run. The cops let them run, but arrest them at the finish line. I don’t > know what the cops would do with someone who was wearing only a standard > jock strap.
The wide center strap sounds fairly close to the thong rules they have down in Florida. My guess is that wearing just a standard jock outside of a pride parade is almost a guaranteed ticket if not arrest. Tim, who has been caught in his briefs and let go, but has been lucky enough not to have tested the waters with a jock…
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Hematoma and pain
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A Vasectomy. I was told today by a specialist that it will take 3-6months for the hematoma to breakup and my scrotum will b e back to normal.
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I’m writing for 2 reasons: to share my experience and to learn from others. I had a vasectomy 8 days ago from a board-certified urologist. After I got home and laid down, I knew something wasn’t quite right, but this being my first vasectomy, I wasn’t quite sure. I felt pressure building up in my scrotum and above my left testes into my abdomen. Called doc in afternoon. He said ice it. Called doc in evening when things turned more purple. He said ice it. Called doc 2 days later and he said sounded like a hematoma and that I should keep icing it and go on Cipro. Well the the whole scrotum, penis, pubic area, and left thigh are black and blue now. Scrotum is the size of an orange, which I thought was pretty bad, but after reading some of these posts, doesn’t seem like much anymore — I feel for everyone out there. I have severe itching and burning sensation that is located only on the surface of the scrotum itself. The sensation is unbearable when I stand or sit upright, but when I lay down, the sensation almost entirely disappears. The burning feels like a thousand papercuts all over my scrotum (sorry to make you cringe). This condition makes driving and going to work almost impossible. Has anyone experience this kind of sensation and is it related to the hematoma or bruising of the entire scrotum? Any ideas for relief and experience with how long this might last? Advise to others who haven’t gone under the knife yet: although complications are rare, they do exist so be prepared to miss work for awhile. Also, definitely bring a jock strap and ice to the doctor and go home and lay down as quickly as possible and keep the ice on. I don’t wish this pain on anyone. TIA, TW
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Mine was nothing like this but I had read stories of people with complications such as your taking 1 to 3 months to completely heal. 1 month most were back to work. My post-op swelling and bruising was about nothing compared to what you describe and even that took a good 12 days or so to reach a point were I wasn’t limping around. I think you’re looking at a long-ish recovery. I’m sorry I’m not full of good news 
Get better. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -twilborn…@yahoo.com (TW) wrote in message <news:64ba8341.0408180859.2b33ca94@posting.google.com>… > I’m updating my status for anyone who’s interested. > I’m on day 12 now and still have swelling and bruising from hematoma. > The right side has gone down and softened up a bit, but the left is > large and rock-hard. Still black and blue all over the area. Anyone > know how long this will last? I’m kinda upset that the magnitude of > this complication was not disclosed by the doctor before the > procedure. > twilborn…@yahoo.com (TW) wrote in message <news:64ba8341.0408142016.6eb23603@posting.google.com>… > > I’m writing for 2 reasons: to share my experience and to learn from > > others. > > I had a vasectomy 8 days ago from a board-certified urologist. After I > > got home and laid down, I knew something wasn’t quite right, but this > > being my first vasectomy, I wasn’t quite sure. I felt pressure > > building up in my scrotum and above my left testes into my abdomen. > > Called doc in afternoon. He said ice it. Called doc in evening when > > things turned more purple. He said ice it. Called doc 2 days later and > > he said sounded like a hematoma and that I should keep icing it and go > > on Cipro. Well the the whole scrotum, penis, pubic area, and left > > thigh are black and blue now. Scrotum is the size of an orange, which > > I thought was pretty bad, but after reading some of these posts, > > doesn’t seem like much anymore — I feel for everyone out there. > > I have severe itching and burning sensation that is located only on > > the surface of the scrotum itself. The sensation is unbearable when I > > stand or sit upright, but when I lay down, the sensation almost > > entirely disappears. The burning feels like a thousand papercuts all > > over my scrotum (sorry to make you cringe). This condition makes > > driving and going to work almost impossible. > > Has anyone experience this kind of sensation and is it related to the > > hematoma or bruising of the entire scrotum? Any ideas for relief and > > experience with how long this might last? > > Advise to others who haven’t gone under the knife yet: although > > complications are rare, they do exist so be prepared to miss work for > > awhile. Also, definitely bring a jock strap and ice to the doctor and > > go home and lay down as quickly as possible and keep the ice on. I > > don’t wish this pain on anyone. > > TIA, > > TW
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TW, I also had a hematoma (amongst other things) and found that it took about 3 weeks to resolve, although I didn’t have a problem with itching. Keep a very close watch on any other symptoms (like pain, problems ejaculating, etc) as those factors would be more of a concern long-term. I think the source of the original bleeding is really the question, as it could be caused by a number of things. I’m still battling pain and ache from my op back in February and hope you are spared that fate but it’s important you have a heads up of what may/may not happen long term. I also completely agree with the seriousness of the small (but certainly possible as you’ve seen) complications with the procedure and how it’s just a footnote on most initial consultations, if at all. In my case I’ve had more pain this year than all the rest of my life combined – and I know there are people who have it much worse than me. I hope things resolve quickly for you and definitely recommend you see your urologist again (or another if he’s unresponsive), even if it’s just to document what’s happening. -Adam – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -twilborn…@yahoo.com (TW) wrote in message <news:64ba8341.0408180859.2b33ca94@posting.google.com>… > I’m updating my status for anyone who’s interested. > I’m on day 12 now and still have swelling and bruising from hematoma. > The right side has gone down and softened up a bit, but the left is > large and rock-hard. Still black and blue all over the area. Anyone > know how long this will last? I’m kinda upset that the magnitude of > this complication was not disclosed by the doctor before the > procedure. > twilborn…@yahoo.com (TW) wrote in message <news:64ba8341.0408142016.6eb23603@posting.google.com>… > > I’m writing for 2 reasons: to share my experience and to learn from > > others. > > I had a vasectomy 8 days ago from a board-certified urologist. After I > > got home and laid down, I knew something wasn’t quite right, but this > > being my first vasectomy, I wasn’t quite sure. I felt pressure > > building up in my scrotum and above my left testes into my abdomen. > > Called doc in afternoon. He said ice it. Called doc in evening when > > things turned more purple. He said ice it. Called doc 2 days later and > > he said sounded like a hematoma and that I should keep icing it and go > > on Cipro. Well the the whole scrotum, penis, pubic area, and left > > thigh are black and blue now. Scrotum is the size of an orange, which > > I thought was pretty bad, but after reading some of these posts, > > doesn’t seem like much anymore — I feel for everyone out there. > > I have severe itching and burning sensation that is located only on > > the surface of the scrotum itself. The sensation is unbearable when I > > stand or sit upright, but when I lay down, the sensation almost > > entirely disappears. The burning feels like a thousand papercuts all > > over my scrotum (sorry to make you cringe). This condition makes > > driving and going to work almost impossible. > > Has anyone experience this kind of sensation and is it related to the > > hematoma or bruising of the entire scrotum? Any ideas for relief and > > experience with how long this might last? > > Advise to others who haven’t gone under the knife yet: although > > complications are rare, they do exist so be prepared to miss work for > > awhile. Also, definitely bring a jock strap and ice to the doctor and > > go home and lay down as quickly as possible and keep the ice on. I > > don’t wish this pain on anyone. > > TIA, > > TW
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twilborn…@yahoo.com (TW) wrote in message <news:64ba8341.0408180859.2b33ca94@posting.google.com>… > I’m updating my status for anyone who’s interested. > I’m on day 12 now and still have swelling and bruising from hematoma. > The right side has gone down and softened up a bit, but the left is > large and rock-hard. Still black and blue all over the area. Anyone > know how long this will last? I’m kinda upset that the magnitude of > this complication was not disclosed by the doctor before the > procedure.
Is there still pain? I think you should insist on seeing the doctor again, if you havne’t seen him since the vasectomy. (My doctor routinely schedules a check up one week after.) trifold www.vasectomy-information.
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Do you mind telling which type of procedure you choose to have done?
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I’m updating my status for anyone who’s interested. I’m on day 12 now and still have swelling and bruising from hematoma. The right side has gone down and softened up a bit, but the left is large and rock-hard. Still black and blue all over the area. Anyone know how long this will last? I’m kinda upset that the magnitude of this complication was not disclosed by the doctor before the procedure. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -twilborn…@yahoo.com (TW) wrote in message <news:64ba8341.0408142016.6eb23603@posting.google.com>… > I’m writing for 2 reasons: to share my experience and to learn from > others. > I had a vasectomy 8 days ago from a board-certified urologist. After I > got home and laid down, I knew something wasn’t quite right, but this > being my first vasectomy, I wasn’t quite sure. I felt pressure > building up in my scrotum and above my left testes into my abdomen. > Called doc in afternoon. He said ice it. Called doc in evening when > things turned more purple. He said ice it. Called doc 2 days later and > he said sounded like a hematoma and that I should keep icing it and go > on Cipro. Well the the whole scrotum, penis, pubic area, and left > thigh are black and blue now. Scrotum is the size of an orange, which > I thought was pretty bad, but after reading some of these posts, > doesn’t seem like much anymore — I feel for everyone out there. > I have severe itching and burning sensation that is located only on > the surface of the scrotum itself. The sensation is unbearable when I > stand or sit upright, but when I lay down, the sensation almost > entirely disappears. The burning feels like a thousand papercuts all > over my scrotum (sorry to make you cringe). This condition makes > driving and going to work almost impossible. > Has anyone experience this kind of sensation and is it related to the > hematoma or bruising of the entire scrotum? Any ideas for relief and > experience with how long this might last? > Advise to others who haven’t gone under the knife yet: although > complications are rare, they do exist so be prepared to miss work for > awhile. Also, definitely bring a jock strap and ice to the doctor and > go home and lay down as quickly as possible and keep the ice on. I > don’t wish this pain on anyone. > TIA, > TW
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I am on day 14 I can feel for you, after 7days i was so sore and black and blue so i had to go see the doctor to get the stiches out. He sd the bruising is normal however the blood pooling in the right side of my testicles sack is not. He said i have a scrotum hemotoma and gave me medications to take for 2 weeks, they included (Generic Ceftin – twice a day 1 tablet – to prevent intections), (Diclofenac Sodium – twice a day – 1 tablet – to reduce the inflamation), and (Tylenol 3 with Codeine for pain). I called him again today because its been 2 weeks and he say these blood clots or pooling can take 3-6month to break up and go back to normal. I said the pooling seems to be getting harder he said thats a good sign. I requested a referal to so a urologist, he said he didnt think it was necessary they would tell me the same thing, I have a rare scrotum hemotoma. He said if it getting larger he wants to do a ultrasound of it. I feel your pain. I just didnt realize how long it would take to heal. Everyone told me it was a 2-3 day heal and back to work. I sit at a desk all day and its painful. -Mike
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Where exactly is the OBC made???
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Hi guys, Many guys into athletic cups such as myself rave about the Original Banana Cup. Personally it is one of the best manufactured athletic cups I know for comfort, fit and mobility, although all my life I have been a staunch "supporter" of BIKE Athletic products, particularly the BIKE CUP in its traditional flat and more contemporary contoured, banana cup models. Let’s face it as a citizen of the USA, I believe in supporting products "Made in the USA" of which BIKE Athletic, still based in Knoxville, TN but now a subsidiary of Russell Athletic is part. When I think of BIKE, I think of the BIKE no. 10 supporter and the BIKE CUP which has supported and protected men and boys over the years. I am sure there are many here when they think of jocks and cups, they think of BIKE. However I believe that the Original Banana Cup is manufactured somewhere in Canada, our neighbor to the north. Eight years ago this weekend, a friend and I spent several delightful days in Niagara Falls, Toronto, and Ottawa. We were blessed great summer weather. Does anybody know of the corporation in Canada that manufactures the Original Banana Cup or if it has a web site? Please post your answer here or you may e-mail me. Thanks in advance. Perhaps Jockwoof would know. Thom. in DC
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In article <41150d71$0$5905$61fed…@news.rcn.com>, "Thom in DC" <tj1…@erols.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi guys, > Many guys into athletic cups such as myself rave about the Original > Banana Cup. Personally it is one of the best manufactured athletic cups I > know for comfort, fit and mobility, although all my life I have been a > staunch "supporter" of BIKE Athletic products, particularly the BIKE CUP in > its traditional flat and more contemporary contoured, banana cup models. > Let’s face it as a citizen of the USA, I believe in supporting products > "Made in the USA" of which BIKE Athletic, still based in Knoxville, TN but > now a subsidiary of Russell Athletic is part. When I think of BIKE, I think > of the BIKE no. 10 supporter and the BIKE CUP which has supported and > protected men and boys over the years. I am sure there are many here when > they think of jocks and cups, they think of BIKE. > However I believe that the Original Banana Cup is manufactured somewhere > in Canada, our neighbor to the north. Eight years ago this weekend, a friend > and I spent several delightful days in Niagara Falls, Toronto, and Ottawa. > We were blessed great summer weather. > Does anybody know of the corporation in Canada that manufactures the > Original Banana Cup or if it has a web site? Please post your answer here or > you may e-mail me. Thanks in advance. Perhaps Jockwoof would know.
I looked up the design patent that’s listed on the OBC and IIRC it was issued to some company in California. But I may be remembering it wrong. In any case, the Bike cup patent looks nothing like the Bike cup, and the two different classifications for the two cups is an example of how fucked-up the US Patent Office is. They need to get their act together before all innovation and invention moves offshore for fear of eternal patent lawsuits. BTW, the "Original" Banana Cup is a newer design than the Bike cup. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com> jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml
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Jockwoof, thank you for replying to this post. I am always amazed by your insights. > I looked up the design patent that’s listed on the OBC and IIRC it was > issued to some company in California. But I may be remembering it wrong. > In any case, the Bike cup patent looks nothing like the Bike cup, and > the two different classifications for the two cups is an example of how > fucked-up the US Patent Office is. They need to get their act together > before all innovation and invention moves offshore for fear of eternal > patent lawsuits. > BTW, the "Original" Banana Cup is a newer design than the Bike cup. > —
I remember a guy in the mid 1990’s posted a blueprint on alt.support.jock-strap for the patent of the KK [Double K] Cup, the first banana cup which came out in the 1960’s and said that the BIKE banana cup style no. 85 was based upon it. I bought the BIKE banana cup when it first came out in 1986. The cup supporter unit came in a large blue box with a detailed description of the cup. The box said it was designed by Frank DiMatteo, but the guy who posted to our NG said he actually designed the KK Cup. Is that so? The "Original" Banana Cup has a more triangular shape than the BIKE CUP no. 85. Earlier this evening I was chatting with a guy on Allkink’s website who is a a coach for a company baseball team in Houston, TX told me that he has looking for the "perfect" banana cup. He said that the OBC has come out not only in yellow plastic, but also in white and gray over the years. Finally, a detailed history of athletic supporters and cups complete with copious photographs needs to be written. This history would include all the brands manufactured over the years. Perhaps the starting point for such a history would be 1874 when the first athletic supporters were manufactured supposedly by the Bike Web Company [Kendall Co.] in Massachusetts (?). Although I have heard that from members of this group that suspensories were precursors to jockstraps, worn by sailors in the 1850’s. Thom. in DC
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History of the cup would be a nice read. I know the history of the jock. What amazes me is how people still only want to buy American products. I am as patriotic as it gets and served my country in the Navy. But if you think for a second you can survive todays world without buy something from outside our borders you should really think abou it. It has been proven over the years foreign cars are usually better. Textiles are mainly made over seas and if you want anything electronic, watches, cameras or other things of the such you better expect to pay money like you have never seen. When America wants to it can make a fine product. Even top notch but most average people cannot afford it. Buying American does not make you a good American. Building crappy products makes a pathetic America.
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For anyone who wants to read the DiMatteo Patent # 4,043,329, that is the patent Number that appears on the Bike "Banana" Cup, here is the link at the US Patent Office: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P… It is not important that the Bike "Banana" Cup look exactly like the drawings for a case to be made that it would have infringed on this patent… If one reads the claims made for this patent #4,043,329 the crucial difference between this cup and the conventional cup is that it does more than protect from perpendicular blows: "In athletic competition particularly body contact sports such as football, hockey, rugby, soccer and the like a cup is worn by the competitors to avoid injury due to inadvertent blows to the groin area. Many of these inadvertent blows to the groin area direct force perpendicular to the axis of the body (i.e. the spine) and require the cup to absorb such blows. The cup effectively insulates the groin area and associated genitals from these perpendicular blows." "However, when the blow is directed upwardly and substantially parallel with the axis of the body, the protection of the genitals by the cup is hindered since the cup rides upwardly with the force of the blow and the edge of the cup tends to ride on the scrotum and impact the testes. Further, angular upward blows produce the same impediment to cup protection as the upward parallel blows……..In accordance with the present invention a protective device for the groin area is provided which effectively prevents injury due to both perpendicular, parallel and angular blows to the groin." "Thom in DC" <tj1…@erols.com> wrote in message <news:4115c176$0$5912$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jockwoof, thank you for replying to this post. I am always amazed by your > insights. > > I looked up the design patent that’s listed on the OBC and IIRC it was > > issued to some company in California. But I may be remembering it wrong. > > In any case, the Bike cup patent looks nothing like the Bike cup, and > > the two different classifications for the two cups is an example of how > > fucked-up the US Patent Office is. They need to get their act together > > before all innovation and invention moves offshore for fear of eternal > > patent lawsuits. > > BTW, the "Original" Banana Cup is a newer design than the Bike cup. > > — > I remember a guy in the mid 1990’s posted a blueprint on > alt.support.jock-strap for the patent of the KK [Double K] Cup, the first > banana cup which came out in the 1960’s and said that the BIKE banana cup > style no. 85 was based upon it. I bought the BIKE banana cup when it first > came out in 1986. The cup supporter unit came in a large blue box with a > detailed description of the cup. The box said it was designed by Frank > DiMatteo, but the guy who posted to our NG said he actually designed the KK > Cup. Is that so? > The "Original" Banana Cup has a more triangular shape than the BIKE CUP no. > 85. Earlier this evening I was chatting with a guy on Allkink’s website who > is a a coach for a company baseball team in Houston, TX told me that he has > looking for the "perfect" banana cup. He said that the OBC has come out not > only in yellow plastic, but also in white and gray over the years. > Finally, a detailed history of athletic supporters and cups complete with > copious photographs needs to be written. This history would include all the > brands manufactured over the years. Perhaps the starting point for such a > history would be 1874 when the first athletic supporters were manufactured > supposedly by the Bike Web Company [Kendall Co.] in Massachusetts (?). > Although I have heard that from members of this group that suspensories were > precursors to jockstraps, worn by sailors in the 1850’s. > Thom. in DC
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Dear BaseballFan, I agree with your sentiments on American products. The quality of BIKE Athletic jock and cup products has slipped somewhat in recent years. The BIKE Proline jock when it came out in the mid to late 1990’s had flimsy polyester fabric which made me wonder if the jock could stand up to routine laundering. I haven’t tried BIKE jocks since then. Perhaps other guys here share their experiences the more recent BIKE jocks. Thom. in DC "BaseballFan85013" <baseballfan85…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040809040049.11415.00002078@mb-m23.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> History of the cup would be a nice read. I know the history of the jock. > What amazes me is how people still only want to buy American products. I am as > patriotic as it gets and served my country in the Navy. But if you think for a > second you can survive todays world without buy something from outside our > borders you should really think abou it. > It has been proven over the years foreign cars are usually better. Textiles > are mainly made over seas and if you want anything electronic, watches, cameras > or other things of the such you better expect to pay money like you have never > seen. > When America wants to it can make a fine product. Even top notch but most > average people cannot afford it. > Buying American does not make you a good American. Building crappy products > makes a pathetic America.
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Joe: Thank you so much for giving us the link to the patent of the BIKE "Banana" Cup. I was able to bring up the web page but couldn’t view the images of the patent because I didn’t have the proper plug-in for viewing the file. So the link directed me to a list of Netscape plug-ins, but unfortunately the list didn’t have any plug-ins for Windows XP which I have. Perhaps you or other guys who have Windows XP could help me find the proper plug-in for my machine. Also, Joe, I was wondering if you could hunt up the patent for the Original Banana Cup and post the URL for it just as you have done for the BIKE "Banana" Cup. Thanks in advance. Thom. in DC "joe johnson" <JJ_St…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5bebcb94.0408091237.2ad9fdde@posting.google.com… > For anyone who wants to read the DiMatteo Patent # 4,043,329, that is > the patent Number that appears on the Bike "Banana" Cup, here is the > link at the US Patent Office:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It is not important that the Bike "Banana" Cup look exactly like the > drawings for a case to be made that it would have infringed on this > patent… If one reads the claims made for this patent #4,043,329 the > crucial difference between this cup and the conventional cup is that > it does more than protect from perpendicular blows: > "In athletic competition particularly body contact sports such as > football, hockey, rugby, soccer and the like a cup is worn by the > competitors to avoid injury due to inadvertent blows to the groin > area. Many of these inadvertent blows to the groin area direct force > perpendicular to the axis of the body (i.e. the spine) and require the > cup to absorb such blows. The cup effectively insulates the groin area > and associated genitals from these perpendicular blows." > "However, when the blow is directed upwardly and substantially > parallel with the axis of the body, the protection of the genitals by > the cup is hindered since the cup rides upwardly with the force of the > blow and the edge of the cup tends to ride on the scrotum and impact > the testes. Further, angular upward blows produce the same impediment > to cup protection as the upward parallel blows……..In accordance > with the present invention a protective device for the groin area is > provided which effectively prevents injury due to both perpendicular, > parallel and angular blows to the groin." > "Thom in DC" <tj1…@erols.com> wrote in message
<news:4115c176$0$5912$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Jockwoof, thank you for replying to this post. I am always amazed by your > > insights. > > > I looked up the design patent that’s listed on the OBC and IIRC it was > > > issued to some company in California. But I may be remembering it wrong. > > > In any case, the Bike cup patent looks nothing like the Bike cup, and > > > the two different classifications for the two cups is an example of how > > > fucked-up the US Patent Office is. They need to get their act together > > > before all innovation and invention moves offshore for fear of eternal > > > patent lawsuits. > > > BTW, the "Original" Banana Cup is a newer design than the Bike cup. > > > — > > I remember a guy in the mid 1990’s posted a blueprint on > > alt.support.jock-strap for the patent of the KK [Double K] Cup, the first > > banana cup which came out in the 1960’s and said that the BIKE banana cup > > style no. 85 was based upon it. I bought the BIKE banana cup when it first > > came out in 1986. The cup supporter unit came in a large blue box with a > > detailed description of the cup. The box said it was designed by Frank > > DiMatteo, but the guy who posted to our NG said he actually designed the KK > > Cup. Is that so? > > The "Original" Banana Cup has a more triangular shape than the BIKE CUP no. > > 85. Earlier this evening I was chatting with a guy on Allkink’s website who > > is a a coach for a company baseball team in Houston, TX told me that he has > > looking for the "perfect" banana cup. He said that the OBC has come out not > > only in yellow plastic, but also in white and gray over the years. > > Finally, a detailed history of athletic supporters and cups complete with > > copious photographs needs to be written. This history would include all the > > brands manufactured over the years. Perhaps the starting point for such a > > history would be 1874 when the first athletic supporters were manufactured > > supposedly by the Bike Web Company [Kendall Co.] in Massachusetts (?). > > Although I have heard that from members of this group that suspensories were > > precursors to jockstraps, worn by sailors in the 1850’s. > > Thom. in DC
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This might be the "Design" patent for the OBC. I don’t have one where I am just now to confirm the patent number: D294,075 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1… Also note the referenced patents at that page. Gamble 849471 from 1907. This is truly the "Original" Banana Cup design or at least the earliest I have seen with contouring edges. And also note the Gamm et al patent. It was held by Jung Products which owned the Futuro brand at the time. This is interesting because the strengthening ridges on the outside of the OBC are identical to the ridges on the Futuro Cup and so are the holes and slots. It also raises the question why the OBC has ventilation holes that are covered on the inside of the cup.( I am not sure if all OBC’s have the cushioned lining on the inside.) That Jung patent however was for the way the Futuro cushioning gasket was attached. It was not by means of adhesive but molded through numerous small perforations in the edge of the cup "Thom in DC" <tj1…@erols.com> wrote in message <news:41182a2e$0$5904$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Joe: > Thank you so much for giving us the link to the patent of the BIKE > "Banana" Cup. I was able to bring up the web page but couldn’t view the > images of the patent because I didn’t have the proper plug-in for viewing > the file. So the link directed me to a list of Netscape plug-ins, but > unfortunately the list didn’t have any plug-ins for Windows XP which I have. > Perhaps you or other guys who have Windows XP could help me find the proper > plug-in for my machine. > Also, Joe, I was wondering if you could hunt up the patent for the > Original Banana Cup and post the URL for it just as you have done for the > BIKE "Banana" Cup. Thanks in advance. > Thom. in DC > "joe johnson" <JJ_St…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:5bebcb94.0408091237.2ad9fdde@posting.google.com… > > For anyone who wants to read the DiMatteo Patent # 4,043,329, that is > > the patent Number that appears on the Bike "Banana" Cup, here is the > > link at the US Patent Office: > http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P… > > It is not important that the Bike "Banana" Cup look exactly like the > > drawings for a case to be made that it would have infringed on this > > patent… If one reads the claims made for this patent #4,043,329 the > > crucial difference between this cup and the conventional cup is that > > it does more than protect from perpendicular blows: > > "In athletic competition particularly body contact sports such as > > football, hockey, rugby, soccer and the like a cup is worn by the > > competitors to avoid injury due to inadvertent blows to the groin > > area. Many of these inadvertent blows to the groin area direct force > > perpendicular to the axis of the body (i.e. the spine) and require the > > cup to absorb such blows. The cup effectively insulates the groin area > > and associated genitals from these perpendicular blows." > > "However, when the blow is directed upwardly and substantially > > parallel with the axis of the body, the protection of the genitals by > > the cup is hindered since the cup rides upwardly with the force of the > > blow and the edge of the cup tends to ride on the scrotum and impact > > the testes. Further, angular upward blows produce the same impediment > > to cup protection as the upward parallel blows……..In accordance > > with the present invention a protective device for the groin area is > > provided which effectively prevents injury due to both perpendicular, > > parallel and angular blows to the groin." > > "Thom in DC" <tj1…@erols.com> wrote in message > <news:4115c176$0$5912$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>… > > > Jockwoof, thank you for replying to this post. I am always amazed by > your > > > insights. > > > > I looked up the design patent that’s listed on the OBC and IIRC it was > > > > issued to some company in California. But I may be remembering it > wrong. > > > > In any case, the Bike cup patent looks nothing like the Bike cup, and > > > > the two different classifications for the two cups is an example of > how > > > > fucked-up the US Patent Office is. They need to get their act together > > > > before all innovation and invention moves offshore for fear of eternal > > > > patent lawsuits. > > > > BTW, the "Original" Banana Cup is a newer design than the Bike cup. > > > > — > > > I remember a guy in the mid 1990’s posted a blueprint on > > > alt.support.jock-strap for the patent of the KK [Double K] Cup, the > first > > > banana cup which came out in the 1960’s and said that the BIKE banana > cup > > > style no. 85 was based upon it. I bought the BIKE banana cup when it > first > > > came out in 1986. The cup supporter unit came in a large blue box with a > > > detailed description of the cup. The box said it was designed by Frank > > > DiMatteo, but the guy who posted to our NG said he actually designed the > KK > > > Cup. Is that so? > > > The "Original" Banana Cup has a more triangular shape than the BIKE CUP > no. > > > 85. Earlier this evening I was chatting with a guy on Allkink’s website > who > > > is a a coach for a company baseball team in Houston, TX told me that he > has > > > looking for the "perfect" banana cup. He said that the OBC has come out > not > > > only in yellow plastic, but also in white and gray over the years. > > > Finally, a detailed history of athletic supporters and cups complete > with > > > copious photographs needs to be written. This history would include all > the > > > brands manufactured over the years. Perhaps the starting point for such > a > > > history would be 1874 when the first athletic supporters were > manufactured > > > supposedly by the Bike Web Company [Kendall Co.] in Massachusetts (?). > > > Although I have heard that from members of this group that suspensories > were > > > precursors to jockstraps, worn by sailors in the 1850’s. > > > Thom. in DC
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Husband had vasectomy yesterday
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The doc used the cauterizing instrument to actually cut the tubes, after clamping them, so looks like it was the open ended one. — =^..^= "trifold" <trifo…@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:f6289b53.0408041121.574253a@posting.google.com… > "Smith" <antonysm…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
<news:pu4Qc.130$S%2.84@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I watched the procedure, which I found very interesting. I only found this > > site today, so had no idea that there was more than one type of procedure. > > If I describe the procedure, maybe someone can enlighten me. > > Basically, the incision was made in the skin of the scrotum, then the doc > > went each side. He pulled out the vas, clamped and cauterised each end, > > removing about 1cm of tube, then stitched disolvable stitches on the end of > > the tube nearest the penis. He only stitched once on the left and once on > > the right, so I think he only stitched one end of the tube. Then he closed > > the incision and the stitches have to be removed next Monday. What type of > > procedure do you think this was. > If you have questions, you should ask your husband’s doctor what > procedure he peformed. But from what you say, this sounds like a > version of the "traditional" (that is, scalpel rather than no scalpel) > open ended procedure, in which the testicle ends of the vas tubes are > left open to prevent any sperm backpressure. I am a little confused, > though, by your reference to the doctor cauterizing "each end." If > "each end" here refers to each end of the tube on each side of your > husband’s scrotum, then maybe this was a closed ended procedure after > all, during which for some reason the doctor only sewed shut the > prostatic ends of the tubes. On the other hand, perhaps cautery was > used in your husband’s case not to seal the tubes but simply to cut > them. If so, then he got the open ended procedure, which many say is > even more risk free than the traditional, closed ended version. This > method is especially effective when the doctor double closes the > prostatic ends of the tubes by not only stitching the tubes closed, > but interposing a bit of tissue from the vasal sheath between the > sealed ends of the prostatic segments and the testicular ends, and > sews it into place on each side. The open ended version is not > performed as often as the closed ended version, but seems to be > catching on. > > Hubby is walking like John Wayne at the moment, > The famous "vasectomy shuffle!" > >and on one side has severe > > bruising and swelling. There is also bruising in the groin area on that > > side. I suspect that this is due to the fact he felt pain when the doc first > > pulled the vas, so had to have a second injection, and the incision was > > bleeding, probably internally. > Yes, this could be. In any case, it not unusual for there to be more > bruising and soreness on one side than the other. When I asked (while > on the table) my doctor said one side was always a little more > difficult. I think this is probably because one testicle always hangs > a bit higher, so must be harder to get at. BTW, I’m sure your husband > was told to use ice after the surgery. It reduces brusing, swelling, > and soreness. A jock strap will also work wonders. > > I’ll probably post updates. > That’s great. Good wishes to you and your husband. There is a nice > piece in the humor section at the website advising wives on how to > care for husbands after the snip. (Warning: it was written by a > man!) > Let us know how things come along. > trifold > www.vasectomy-information.com
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Smith wrote: > Basically, the incision was made in the skin of the scrotum, then the doc > went each side. He pulled out the vas, clamped and cauterised each end, > removing about 1cm of tube, then stitched disolvable stitches on the end of > the tube nearest the penis.
If he clamped and cauterized all *4* ends (two tube ends on each side), which it sounds like you are describing, sounds like a standard closed-ended technique. I do not know why he would stitch, in addition to the other sealing methods, one vas end on each side. Did he make separate scrotum incisions on each side? If so, that’s called the "two-cut" method. The two-cut, closed-ended vasectomy is the most standard/classic method, however, using clips and cautery is a more secure and modern way to seal the ends. > Hubby is walking like John Wayne at the moment, and on one side has severe > bruising and swelling. There is also bruising in the groin area on that > side. I suspect that this is due to the fact he felt pain when the doc first > pulled the vas, so had to have a second injection, and the incision was > bleeding, probably internally.
Probably a little more trauma than usual. Men often complain of "tugging" on the tubes. The bruising, assuming there is nothing major wrong, should go away in time. Best wishes for recovery: use lots of ice and support for a while, and take it easy! Call the doc if the swelling concerns you. -Giraud
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"Smith" <antonysm…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message <news:pu4Qc.130$S%2.84@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>… > I watched the procedure, which I found very interesting. I only found this > site today, so had no idea that there was more than one type of procedure. > If I describe the procedure, maybe someone can enlighten me. > Basically, the incision was made in the skin of the scrotum, then the doc > went each side. He pulled out the vas, clamped and cauterised each end, > removing about 1cm of tube, then stitched disolvable stitches on the end of > the tube nearest the penis. He only stitched once on the left and once on > the right, so I think he only stitched one end of the tube. Then he closed > the incision and the stitches have to be removed next Monday. What type of > procedure do you think this was.
If you have questions, you should ask your husband’s doctor what procedure he peformed. But from what you say, this sounds like a version of the "traditional" (that is, scalpel rather than no scalpel) open ended procedure, in which the testicle ends of the vas tubes are left open to prevent any sperm backpressure. I am a little confused, though, by your reference to the doctor cauterizing "each end." If "each end" here refers to each end of the tube on each side of your husband’s scrotum, then maybe this was a closed ended procedure after all, during which for some reason the doctor only sewed shut the prostatic ends of the tubes. On the other hand, perhaps cautery was used in your husband’s case not to seal the tubes but simply to cut them. If so, then he got the open ended procedure, which many say is even more risk free than the traditional, closed ended version. This method is especially effective when the doctor double closes the prostatic ends of the tubes by not only stitching the tubes closed, but interposing a bit of tissue from the vasal sheath between the sealed ends of the prostatic segments and the testicular ends, and sews it into place on each side. The open ended version is not performed as often as the closed ended version, but seems to be catching on. > Hubby is walking like John Wayne at the moment,
The famous "vasectomy shuffle!" >and on one side has severe > bruising and swelling. There is also bruising in the groin area on that > side. I suspect that this is due to the fact he felt pain when the doc first > pulled the vas, so had to have a second injection, and the incision was > bleeding, probably internally.
Yes, this could be. In any case, it not unusual for there to be more bruising and soreness on one side than the other. When I asked (while on the table) my doctor said one side was always a little more difficult. I think this is probably because one testicle always hangs a bit higher, so must be harder to get at. BTW, I’m sure your husband was told to use ice after the surgery. It reduces brusing, swelling, and soreness. A jock strap will also work wonders. > I’ll probably post updates.
That’s great. Good wishes to you and your husband. There is a nice piece in the humor section at the website advising wives on how to care for husbands after the snip. (Warning: it was written by a man!) Let us know how things come along. trifold www.vasectomy-information.com
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I watched the procedure, which I found very interesting. I only found this site today, so had no idea that there was more than one type of procedure. If I describe the procedure, maybe someone can enlighten me. Basically, the incision was made in the skin of the scrotum, then the doc went each side. He pulled out the vas, clamped and cauterised each end, removing about 1cm of tube, then stitched disolvable stitches on the end of the tube nearest the penis. He only stitched once on the left and once on the right, so I think he only stitched one end of the tube. Then he closed the incision and the stitches have to be removed next Monday. What type of procedure do you think this was. Hubby is walking like John Wayne at the moment, and on one side has severe bruising and swelling. There is also bruising in the groin area on that side. I suspect that this is due to the fact he felt pain when the doc first pulled the vas, so had to have a second injection, and the incision was bleeding, probably internally. I’ll probably post updates. T
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> I watched the procedure, which I found very interesting.
I’m not sure I’d want to watch! > Basically, the incision was made in the skin of the scrotum, then the doc > went each side. He pulled out the vas, clamped and cauterised each end, > removing about 1cm of tube, then stitched disolvable stitches on the end of > the tube nearest the penis. He only stitched once on the left and once on > the right, so I think he only stitched one end of the tube. Then he closed > the incision and the stitches have to be removed next Monday. What type of > procedure do you think this was.
Well, as Giraud says, if all four ends have been cauterised it’s standard vasectomy. If they used a puncture tool to gain access to the tubes, then it would be standard no-scalpel (NSV). The reason for stitching the distal ends may be what is called fascial interposition. What they do is to fold the end over, and stitch it back on itself to provide extra reliability – a few studies into this on the website (below) if you want to look further into this. They usually use self disolving stitches to seal up the scrotum, and this doesn’t always necessitate removal by the doctor. Depends on the thread they use. > Hubby is walking like John Wayne at the moment, and on one side has severe > bruising and swelling. There is also bruising in the groin area on that > side. I suspect that this is due to the fact he felt pain when the doc first > pulled the vas, so had to have a second injection, and the incision was > bleeding, probably internally.
I wouldn’t be too woried about this, as swelling and bruising are perfectly normal. You need to watch out for signs of infection, and any unusual bruising that doesn’t dissapear after a couple of weeks. If you are worried at any point, ring the doctor to check – follow up’s are part of what he gets paid for. > I’ll probably post updates.
Please do! David www.vasectomy-information.com
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Smith wrote: > The doc used the cauterizing instrument to actually cut the tubes, after > clamping them, so looks like it was the open ended one.
Hmm, I wonder if using a cautery instrument to cut can still leave the ends open, since cautery is also used to seal. Perhaps using the tool in a different manner "cuts" vs. "seals?" If you get the chance to ask the doctor more, I’d certainly be interested, since I know my uro used the cautery tool a lot even in my open-ended conversion (he was really digging down in there at times, which sent electrical nerve sensations deep into me). I assumed he was using it to perhaps stop bleeding in there or to separate the old piece of tube from the tissue in there (which he finally extracted) without causing more bleeding. Giraud
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safetgard thong
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Does anyone own a saftegard thong? I love my swimmer jocks from safetgard and i was wondering if the thongs were as comfy??
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Yes! They are very comfortable and well worth the relatively low price. If you’re not used to wearing a thong, it would be a good way to start. "jacob alonzo" <pacifcw…@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:67_Oc.1007$7k6.423@trndny05… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone own a saftegard thong? I love my swimmer jocks from safetgard > and i was wondering if the thongs were as comfy??
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i own a couple of them . but i just don’t think they have the support that swimmers and the traditional jock strap have !
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Jocks In High Schools
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I cannot see any grounds for litigation by requiring male students participating in athletic activity to wear a standard piece of athletic gear designed to protect them from injury. Quite the contrary if an injury were to occur such as testicular torsion or a crushed testicle and they had been allowed to participate in athletic endeavors without wearing a supporter or cup, depending on the activity, then there would be a possible case. In fact many schools public and private still require supporters and cups to be worn for both P.E. and for participating in sports. I will bet that if you were to search on the net by typing in something like P.E. uniform and "athletic supporter" you could probably confirm this. I guess the fact that they still are made in youth and teen sizes is also confirmation that there is still a demand. There was a rule requiring them in my Middle School and some instructors actually checked as they took role. In high school there was no such rule but I would say about 95% of the guys having already been conditioned to, wore them anyway. One practice that took place in my 9th grade weightligting class which really surprises me when I reflect but was not really a big deal at the time, is that to monitor our body fat during the semester, every other Friday after stripping and before putting on our PE clothes we had to line up at the scale wearing only a supporter. We were weighed and the coach also took numerous measurements with fat calipers including a measurement on one of the butt cheeks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ten…@webtv.net wrote in message <news:23485-4103E376-193@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>… > Probably not. I think school districts are reluctant to require > students to wear such personal undergear items for fear of getting sued > by litigeous parents. When I entered high school in 1968, I received my > first jock. It was an all-cotton Champion Atlas. I remember being kinda > scared when I first saw it. "God, what the hell is this?", I thought. > But, yet, I was also aroused by the sight of it. I could not wait to > try it on. We all had to wear them, though. I was always afraid I > would sport a bone wearing that uniquely-male item of undergear. High > school was my first experience of being in a locker room so staring at > all that young cockmeat didn’t help either. At the time, of course, I > refused to believe that I was a homo, even though that’s what I was > often called. PE was only reqiuired for freshman year and, being an > unathletic nerd at the time, I never took the class after that. But I > kept that jockstrap for several years until I finally destroyed it from > excessive masturbatory abuse. Jockstraps are still my preferred type of > cumrag.
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Ah Joe, those ‘weigh-ins’ were something alright! All those Hot athletes lined up in just jocks in PE with everyone else. And you wondered why as small as these guys were in the changing room, why suddenly they lQQked so hung in the Gym with big bulges. Were they turned on??? We only had ‘weigh-ins’ at the beginning and end of each semester. After weighing in, we had our arm strenght tested with calibar as well as our fat calibrated. Plus a leg strength test I thought was strange. We laid on the cold Gym floor with legs in the air, doing that bicycle pumping exercise. The coach would start down the line and when he got to you, you placed your bare feet on his chest and with him holding your feet, you pushed as hard as you could. But there you were, naked except for your jock, legs up with butt showing with the coach lQQking down at your jock. Why lQQking? For kicks? LQQking to see if you did have a hard-on and if so, what did that prove? After all, we all were hormone-raging Teens! Has anyone here had leg strength tests like this? Do you think it really was some part of a test or was my PE instructor just getting his jollies off??? Oh my, how we obeyed the coach with EVERYTHING! The all-knowing coach! Looking back, we had no idea he could be a sadist, a closet Gay, a mental case in dealing with obstinate young men. Wish that PE instructor was younger and my type, I would have stayed after hours seeing how he looked wearing just a jockstrap! Rats, all those Look but don’t Touch days! Jocks should be mandatory with sports activities for protection and for doing some of your team-mates a visual favor! FF
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theyre not at my school, but me and some other guys still wear them.
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I had forgotten about the bicycle pumping exercise. It was a regular part of our PE class daily calisthenics. In hindsight, I really wonder what redeeming body conditioning benefit it provided. I don’t remember the PE teacher ever checking leg strength, but I can recall the coaches walking thru the ranks and insisting that the legs be rotated and not just wiggled. I accept with surprise that some schools still require that cups be worn in PE. My public school Junior High experience was over 4 decades ago, and even though the PE uniform regulations may have still specified that cups be worn in PE, in my school I think only one PE teacher insisted that they be worn every day. I would have guessed that the term "cup supporter unit" would have vanished from the school-supply-list by the mid 1960’s. Jocks were another matter. Starting in 7th grade, and continuing thru HS, I don’t believe anyone would have even considered reporting for gym class without the requisite supporter.
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They are required for PE at my school. It wasn’t enforced for while, but last year a couple of guys got hurt because they were wearing boxers.
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Ironically, while jock straps may have all but disappeared from P.E. attire, the use of cups may have actually increased in recent years. Forty years ago in rural areas you couldn’t find a sporting goods store to buy them, and most were supplied by the school system. On our baseball team, there were a couple cups in the catcher’s gear bag, and that was it. If an unfortunate infielder took a bad hop in the crotch during baseball practice, it was all over school the next day. In P.E., most "cup" sports were avoided, with the possible exception of dodgeball which had a reputation of being pushed by coaches who liked to laugh at the poor unfortunate nerd who took a crotch shot. When floor hockey became popular, I understand it was not uncommon for the coach to come down to the lockerroom at the begnning of the period and ask who wanted to play goalie that day and then give him the mask and a cup. It seemed like every P.E. class had one or two guys whose towel snapping expertise made you want to wear a cup in the lockerroom worse than in the gym. When the towel snapping started at shower time, everybody was walking around like soccer players in a wall.
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Probably not. I think school districts are reluctant to require students to wear such personal undergear items for fear of getting sued by litigeous parents. When I entered high school in 1968, I received my first jock. It was an all-cotton Champion Atlas. I remember being kinda scared when I first saw it. "God, what the hell is this?", I thought. But, yet, I was also aroused by the sight of it. I could not wait to try it on. We all had to wear them, though. I was always afraid I would sport a bone wearing that uniquely-male item of undergear. High school was my first experience of being in a locker room so staring at all that young cockmeat didn’t help either. At the time, of course, I refused to believe that I was a homo, even though that’s what I was often called. PE was only reqiuired for freshman year and, being an unathletic nerd at the time, I never took the class after that. But I kept that jockstrap for several years until I finally destroyed it from excessive masturbatory abuse. Jockstraps are still my preferred type of cumrag.
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Are jocks still required in high school athletics? Just wondering. Dean
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I’m not quite to sure about other High Schools, but in mine they weren’t required for P.E. I dont think they were required for the football players, but about half wore them anyway (you could easily tell at the games haha). Most (if not all) the baseball players wore cups/jocks. I remember hearing it from one of the players that they were required and that one of the coaches lost a testicle after his nuts slipped outta his cup. Not to sure about the validity of the last part, but man that’d suck. I graduated this year, so its up to date. "Dean" <dhm…@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ZeidnYiwWvlP1p7cRVn-iw@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Are jocks still required in high school athletics? Just wondering. > Dean