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I just saw a mask–OH NO!!!
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Ah, c’mon, who hasn’t as a kid put a jock strap on their head? 
Doug ********************** On Sat, 12 Jul 1997 04:06:14 GMT, when thunder rumbled like kettle drums under a dark and seething sky, jwalk…@mindspring.com (EEOPro) revealed: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Com’on guys. I’ve heard you all talk about the different types, >sizes, fittings, etc of masks for the last week or so but NO WAY did I >understand we’re talking head gear here! I just saw a quickie 2 >minute piece on the news about Sleep Apnea and they explained what a >CPAP was and showed a guy getting ready for bed… he put on a mask >like Anthony Hopkins wore on The Silence of the Lambs. My husband I >looked at each other and had no idea (and were afraid to ask) what the >other one was thinking! I did not know if I should laugh or cry!!! I >mean seriously folks, do all of the masks fit all the way down the >back of the head and over the face? I’m dying just at the idea! I >guess since I’m desperate I shouldn’t say anything… >G’night. I’m going to bed to enjoy one of the few nights left where I >can rub my cheeks on the pillowcase and wake up with wild hair! >Jeny
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> EEOPro <jwalk…@mindspring.com> wrote in article > > I mean seriously folks, do all of the masks fit all the way down the > > back of the head and over the face? I’m dying just at the idea! I
Not all do. A Monarch mask doesn’t. It’s got the head gear that has to fit over the back of the head but there isn’t any gear coming down over the forehead and the nose. That’s why I chose to try it and I love it. I didn’t like the confining feeling I got from the other masks that have the pieces coming down over the forehead. They don’t tend to show you the Monarch mask in the sleep lab, not sure why. I do know that they tend to leak more air up to the eyes but I remedied that with adhesive skin tape under my eyes and over the top of the mask. No more problem with that. When air leaks to your eyes they feel fatigued and burning in the morning. I don’t have that any more since I found the skin tape to use. I also modified my head gear down to just one strap that goes around the back of my head. Yes, it does cover my ears but it helps to cut down on the noise of the air coming out of the vents. I don’t have to mess with all that headgear anymore and feel so much freer. Terry Carr wrote: > Well … it DOES take getting used to … BUT …. once you do, and begin > to experience the benefits of a good nights sleep on a regular basis, you > will hurt anyone who gets between you and your trusty cpap at bedtime. At
I agree to that wholeheartedly. I was thoroughly opposed to having to use the CPAP, very hostile and angry. But I perservered and made it through the trial-by-fire period. I had to get a new air bed to help my back since I was sleeping deeper and in one spot most of the night. But I sleep so wonderfully well now, it’s all been worth it. I’ve been on the machine for a year now. Believe me, it does just become a routine part of your life. And that’s the secret. Make it a routine. I tried nose spray for the first few weeks until I became used to the air being forced into me and then was able to stop using the sprays. I worried about constant use of decongestants, had heard that your nose can get too used to them and then they are not as effective. But another key to successfully adjusting to the machine is to try various things until you find out what works for you–nose sprays, no nose sprays, waterbed or air bed or your regular bed, extra pillows stuffed under your sides or not, elevating your body with pillows, sleeping on your side, changing your headgear if you can–practical ideas that can make a difference. — Jo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ quo…@ionsys.com –even that which takes forever must be started sometime!
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EEOPro <jwalk…@mindspring.com> wrote in article <5q6vq5$…@camel3.mindspring.com>… <snip> >I’m going to bed to enjoy one of the few nights left where I > can rub my cheeks on the pillowcase and wake up with wild hair! > Jeny
‘Sides Jeny ….. yer hair will be even WILDER!!! Pullin that gear off is guaranteed to mess it up even better! <whew> 
Terry
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I had exactly the same thoughts and counted the nights down with dread at having to use the "stupid mask" for possibly the rest of my life. BUT, once I got it, (using nasal pillows [little rubber doodads that fit into your nostrils and connected to a hose that goes up and over to the back of your head]) and used it for 3 or 4 weeks, I found it to be the solution to heavy lack of sleep, fatigue, grouchiness, anxiety, depression and all sorts of other things. AND I can still "rub my cheeks on the pillow and wake up with semi-wild hair (from the straps holding the hose and pillows). But it sure isn’t the worst thing I’ve experienced and I will gladly wear the damn thing forever if that’s what it takes to feel REALLY GOOD again after so many lousy years. KT. EEOPro <jwalk…@mindspring.com> wrote in article <5q6vq5$…@camel3.mindspring.com>… <snip, snip, snip>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> G’night. I’m going to bed to enjoy one of the few nights left where I > can rub my cheeks on the pillowcase and wake up with wild hair! > Jeny
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Jeny, Fasten your seatbelt, your in for a wild ride! — Mark Brown What’s another word for thesaurus?
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EEOPro <jwalk…@mindspring.com> wrote in article <5q6vq5$…@camel3.mindspring.com>… > Com’on guys. ……<snip> > I mean seriously folks, do all of the masks fit all the way down the > back of the head and over the face? I’m dying just at the idea! I > guess since I’m desperate I shouldn’t say anything… > G’night. I’m going to bed to enjoy one of the few nights left where I > can rub my cheeks on the pillowcase and wake up with wild hair! > Jeny
Scary eh? Well … it DOES take getting used to … BUT …. once you do, and begin to experience the benefits of a good nights sleep on a regular basis, you will hurt anyone who gets between you and your trusty cpap at bedtime. At least it is that way for me now. And it took about 6 weeks of fiddling and adjustments and seeing the doc to get a script for Claritin-D <a decongestant> and a nasal inhaler (new type that is not addictive) and then VIOLA, I had one of those good nights sleep! Now I used to have them maybe once every month or two. Suddenly I was getting them several times a week. The difference was amazing. Several years of treatment for depression and other matters suddenly came into a whole different perspective. Where I could not handle a full time job 9 months ago I now work almost 2 full time jobs, and have energy when I get home to walk 30 mins a night. I too hated the thought of the thing. I would STILL prefer not to have to use it, but see no alternatives at this point for me. And the benefits are just too good to stop. And I no longer snore! (is hard to with that mask on as you are pretty much forced to breathe through your nose only, which is also an adjustment, though not near as hard as I thought, for me anyhow). Sooooo ….. my girlfriend LOVES it. Try and take my cpap and see what SHE would do to ya! HA! And yes …. we do get … er … ‘friendly’ in the night at times. Just takes a sweep of the hand to remove the thing and …. well …. this is a family group …. I best end it here. Now I am a guy with average length hair so I can’t speak to that issue. But if the benefits turn out to be as good for you …. you will adjust and LIKE it I suspect. I wish you good luck and encourage you to be persistant and to get help with whatever you need. Terry
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Thanks to everyone for the encouraging words. With a little coaching from Bill Nehring (BillsCPAP), I went to my home care provider today and was fitted with a Healthdyne Soft Series mask. Here’s hoping for a good night’s sleep. Will report later. Jim again In article <33DEBAD0.7…@erols.com>, laur…@erols.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Jim Frazier wrote: >> Let’s be honest here. Wearing a mask is uncomfortable no matter what. Of >> course, I’m hoping someone can prove me wrong. >> Good news: after three months on CPAP, I feel more alert and awake during the >> day than I have in years. >> Bad news: but I have all the negative mask symptoms anyone can gripe about – >> pimples, marks, dry mouth, leakage beneath my eyes, ripping it off in my >> sleep, uncomfortably tight harness, claustrophobia, panic, etc. etc. >> I am using a Respironics Reusable Contour Mask (Order No. 302186) with support >> ring, comfort flap and slip-on spacer. My machine is a DeVilbiss Horizon >> AutoAdjust 7354 Series. >> I’m probably just being wimpy but keep wondering whether there really is a >> better way to pressurize my head. >> Jim in NY >> p.s. I tried nasal pillows and went back to the mask. >>Dear Jim, >Sorry to hear that the nasal pillows didn’t work for you, but there are >certainly other options. The Respironics disposable mask that you are >using is the most uncomfortable and poorly fitting mask I have every >tried – and I have tried 4 different ones. Don’t settle for something >that leaves marks on your face, breaks out your skin and leaks air into >your eyes!! Yes, I would prefer not to use a mask at all, but after a >long experimentation and lots of problems, I feel comfortable with what >I use now. >Don’t settle for what you are experiencing now. Contact your supplier >and your Dr. and nag them until you are able to try other brands of >masks and get a satisfactory fitting. Otherwise, I would be concerned >that you may become one of the statistics we hear, about noncompliance >with cpap therapy. >-Lauren Ero
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In article <19970728031901.XAA04…@ladder01.news.aol.com>, crosenb…@aol.com says… >I would like to know how to keep from waking up with marks all over my >face from the mask. Let me hear from you with some help in this area. >Marked Woman
Your question prompted me to look for a markless mask. With the help of several folks in this group, I switched from a Respironics Contour to a Healthdyne Soft Series. It worked! The Healthdyne maintains a seal with much less tension on the harness. No more marks, red spots, pimples, etc. I’m getting prettier every day (writer’s opinion.) The only problem with the Healthdyne is the loud exhalation. The sound comes from the air flow out a single hole in the bottom of the mask whereas with the Respironics it exits via slots in the whisper swivel. Anyone know how to put a muffler on the exhaust? Markless Jim
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Markless Jim, <loud exhalation. The sound <comes from the air flow out a single hole in the bottom of the mask Is this the little hole that BillsCPAP advises people to file the edges of? He says to find a little file and round off the edges of the hole (don’t enlarge it), and this creates some kind of aerodynamic magic that quiets the sound. Sally in Seattle (JSo…@aol.com) Coauthor, with Dr. Ralph Pascualy, of Snoring and Sleep Apnea: Personal and Family Guide to Diagnosis and Treatment, published in 1996 by Demos Vermande, NY. Available through bookstores, ISBN # 0-939957-82-5.
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I would like to know how to keep from waking up with marks all over my face from the mask. Let me hear from you with some help in this area. Marked Woman
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CRosenb840 wrote: > I would like to know how to keep from waking up with marks all over my > face from the mask. Let me hear from you with some help in this area. > Marked Woman
Boy do I have questions: 1. How long do the marks last? <1 hour, >2 hours? all day? 2. What brand of mask do you have? Color of headgear? 3. Do you wash your face before you go to bed? Put cream on? 4. Have you tried other masks? If so, which ones? 5. How long has this been going on? In this day and age of modern mask technology, there is no reason for you to go through this. Please let us know. BillsCPAP in Seattle
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jim Frazier wrote: > Let’s be honest here. Wearing a mask is uncomfortable no matter what. Of > course, I’m hoping someone can prove me wrong. > Good news: after three months on CPAP, I feel more alert and awake during the > day than I have in years. > Bad news: but I have all the negative mask symptoms anyone can gripe about – > pimples, marks, dry mouth, leakage beneath my eyes, ripping it off in my > sleep, uncomfortably tight harness, claustrophobia, panic, etc. etc. > I am using a Respironics Reusable Contour Mask (Order No. 302186) with support > ring, comfort flap and slip-on spacer. My machine is a DeVilbiss Horizon > AutoAdjust 7354 Series. > I’m probably just being wimpy but keep wondering whether there really is a > better way to pressurize my head. > Jim in NY > p.s. I tried nasal pillows and went back to the mask. >Dear Jim,
Sorry to hear that the nasal pillows didn’t work for you, but there are certainly other options. The Respironics disposable mask that you are using is the most uncomfortable and poorly fitting mask I have every tried – and I have tried 4 different ones. Don’t settle for something that leaves marks on your face, breaks out your skin and leaks air into your eyes!! Yes, I would prefer not to use a mask at all, but after a long experimentation and lots of problems, I feel comfortable with what I use now. Don’t settle for what you are experiencing now. Contact your supplier and your Dr. and nag them until you are able to try other brands of masks and get a satisfactory fitting. Otherwise, I would be concerned that you may become one of the statistics we hear, about noncompliance with cpap therapy. -Lauren Ero
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Let’s be honest here. Wearing a mask is uncomfortable no matter what. Of course, I’m hoping someone can prove me wrong. Good news: after three months on CPAP, I feel more alert and awake during the day than I have in years. Bad news: but I have all the negative mask symptoms anyone can gripe about – pimples, marks, dry mouth, leakage beneath my eyes, ripping it off in my sleep, uncomfortably tight harness, claustrophobia, panic, etc. etc. I am using a Respironics Reusable Contour Mask (Order No. 302186) with support ring, comfort flap and slip-on spacer. My machine is a DeVilbiss Horizon AutoAdjust 7354 Series. I’m probably just being wimpy but keep wondering whether there really is a better way to pressurize my head. Jim in NY p.s. I tried nasal pillows and went back to the mask. In article <33DD0007.1…@chmc.org>, bne…@chmc.org says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->CRosenb840 wrote: >> I would like to know how to keep from waking up with marks all over my >> face from the mask. Let me hear from you with some help in this area. >> Marked Woman >Boy do I have questions: >1. How long do the marks last? <1 hour, >2 hours? all day? >2. What brand of mask do you have? Color of headgear? >3. Do you wash your face before you go to bed? Put cream on? >4. Have you tried other masks? If so, which ones? >5. How long has this been going on? >In this day and age of modern mask technology, there is no reason for >you to go through this. Please let us know. >BillsCPAP in Seattle
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In article <33DD0007.1…@chmc.org>, BillsCPAP in Seattle <bne…@chmc.org> writes: >> I would like to know how to keep from waking up with marks all over my >>face from the mask. >Boy do I have questions: >1. How long do the marks last? <1 hour, >2 hours? all day? >2. What brand of mask do you have? Color of headgear? >3. Do you wash your face before you go to bed?…. >etc.
Ohboyohboyohboy! I can’t wait for the answer to this! This is going to be one for the archives, folks: Bill At His Best! Sally in Seattle JSo…@aol.com Coauthor, with Dr. Ralph Pascualy, of Snoring and Sleep Apnea: Personal and Family Guide to Diagnosis and Treatment, published in 1996 by Demos Vermande, NY.