OT – Musings

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Caz, I think you have the answer.  One of the problems of having a Saab dealership at the end of the road is that you see some very desirable cars (not all Saab).  Very silly in practice but your brains move to your right foot.  I did in fact buy a car from them a few years ago.  I asked for a test drive.  I don’t think they expected me to head down the M40 in the direction of Oxford at breakneck speed! The car I saw is 14 years old so near to falling apart and has an auto gear box.  An automatic gear box in a sports car?  Where is the fun in that? Simon Replying to my own post, here is a link. http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/dealerservices_photoad.asp?did=1… I have not quite given up on the idea.  114,000km is a very low milage, or even kilometres?  Can even a bad driver trash in auto in 114,000km?  It has not been modified, most seem to have been. Now I am thinking that an unusual car would attract the attention of the police. Cute that the photos were taken outside the local church :-) Simon who can never make up his mind.

WOW!! I can see why you’re tempted Simon. I can just see me now in that passenger seat <G Caz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hey Simon. Sell the jock straps on eBay, and use the money to buy your dream car! Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedberg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hello friends, Manchester United soccer club have sent me a wash bag full of smelly stuff.  I do not recall asking for it.  I have never even been to Manchester!  It is not my club.

Desperation from Man U. They can’t even give them away to their own supporters. As you may have guessed, I’m not a Man U supporter <G As an aside I have to resist temptation.  I have seen a red two seater open top sports car.  I can afford to buy it.  I have an insurance quote which is not *so* far out of this world.  26 of 29 insurance companies would not even quote for insurance and the remaining 3 wanted to speak to me.  Maintaining it would probably see me financially crippled!  The car is from Japan and was never sold in the UK. Simon, dreaming.

I have the answer to your problem Simon..Just take the car for a test drive. You will have to take it for a loooong drive of course (via my neck of the woods.) We’ll just go for a spin and then you take it back to whence it came :-) )) Caz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello friends, Manchester United soccer club have sent me a wash bag full of smelly stuff.  I do not recall asking for it.  I have never even been to Manchester!  It is not my club. Desperation from Man U. They can’t even give them away to their own supporters. As you may have guessed, I’m not a Man U supporter <G As an aside I have to resist temptation.  I have seen a red two seater open top sports car.  I can afford to buy it.  I have an insurance quote which is not *so* far out of this world.  26 of 29 insurance companies would not even quote for insurance and the remaining 3 wanted to speak to me.  Maintaining it would probably see me financially crippled!  The car is from Japan and was never sold in the UK. Simon, dreaming. I have the answer to your problem Simon..Just take the car for a test drive. You will have to take it for a loooong drive of course (via my neck of the woods.) We’ll just go for a spin and then you take it back to whence it came :-) )) Caz Caz, I think you have the answer.  One of the problems of having a Saab dealership at the end of the road is that you see some very desirable cars (not all Saab).  Very silly in practice but your brains move to your right foot.  I did in fact buy a car from them a few years ago.  I asked for a test drive.  I don’t think they expected me to head down the M40 in the direction of Oxford at breakneck speed! The car I saw is 14 years old so near to falling apart and has an auto gear box.  An automatic gear box in a sports car?  Where is the fun in that? Simon Replying to my own post, here is a link. http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/dealerservices_photoad.asp?did=1… I have not quite given up on the idea.  114,000km is a very low milage, or even kilometres?  Can even a bad driver trash in auto in 114,000km?  It has not been modified, most seem to have been. Now I am thinking that an unusual car would attract the attention of the police. Cute that the photos were taken outside the local church :-) Simon who can never make up his mind.

That is a great looking car in the photos. 114K isn’t much at all for mileage. If thinking seriously about purchasing this vehicle have a complete mechanical evaluation done on it by an independent shop that you trust. Looks like covers on books can be very deceiving. Good luck in coming to a decision. — Ron P The trouble with sitting on the fence is getting pickets up the butt — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello friends, [...] As an aside I have to resist temptation.  I have seen a red two seater open top sports car.  I can afford to buy it.  I have an insurance quote which is not *so* far out of this world.  26 of 29 insurance companies would not even quote for insurance and the remaining 3 wanted to speak to me.  Maintaining it would probably see me financially crippled!  The car is from Japan and was never sold in the UK. Simon, dreaming. I have the answer to your problem Simon..Just take the car for a test drive. You will have to take it for a loooong drive of course (via my neck of the woods.) We’ll just go for a spin and then you take it back to whence it came :-) )) Caz Caz, I think you have the answer.  One of the problems of having a Saab dealership at the end of the road is that you see some very desirable cars (not all Saab).  Very silly in practice but your brains move to your right foot.  I did in fact buy a car from them a few years ago.  I asked for a test drive.  I don’t think they expected me to head down the M40 in the direction of Oxford at breakneck speed! The car I saw is 14 years old so near to falling apart and has an auto gear box.  An automatic gear box in a sports car?  Where is the fun in that? Simon Replying to my own post, here is a link. http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/dealerservices_photoad.asp?did=1… I have not quite given up on the idea.  114,000km is a very low milage, or even kilometres?  Can even a bad driver trash in auto in 114,000km?  It has not been modified, most seem to have been. Now I am thinking that an unusual car would attract the attention of the police. Cute that the photos were taken outside the local church :-) Simon who can never make up his mind. That is a great looking car in the photos. 114K isn’t much at all for mileage. If thinking seriously about purchasing this vehicle have a complete mechanical evaluation done on it by an independent shop that you trust. Looks like covers on books can be very deceiving. Good luck in coming to a decision. Ron, A little research has made my mind up.  It is a very nice looking car and most of the mechanical bits are from a Honda Civic of that era.  Not so bad but it is a personal import which makes the insurance costs high.  At fourteen years I suspect some cosmetic coverup of rust or worse.  A newer official Honda import can be had for less money with electric roof and a manual gearbox so it is no deal. A manual gearbox would suggest a sports car has been thrashed but then that is why I want it :-) If it is still there in a week or two I may try to negotiate a much better price.  I would be looking for 25% off the sticker price. And yes an independent mechanical inspection is essential.  I would only buy an unmodified model.  Insurance costs soar if it has been modified.

A friend of mine has an old Civic with over 350,000 miles on it.  I’m not sure of the year. — Tony Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. Albert Einstein — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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OT naughty proverbs

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Virginity like bubble, one prick all gone. Woman who cooks beans and peas in same pot very unsanitary. Kotex not best thing on earth, but next to best thing. Man who marries a girl with no bust has right to feel low down. Squirrel who runs up woman’s leg not find nuts. He who fishes in another man’s well often catches crab. Wife who put husband in doghouse soon find him in cathouse. Man who fight with wife all day get no piece at night. Man who walk through airport door sideways is going to Bangkok.. Woman who dance while wearing jock strap have make believe ballroom. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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LOL! Thanks for the New Year’s chuckles… smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Virginity like bubble, one prick all gone. Woman who cooks beans and peas in same pot very unsanitary. Kotex not best thing on earth, but next to best thing. Man who marries a girl with no bust has right to feel low down. Squirrel who runs up woman’s leg not find nuts. He who fishes in another man’s well often catches crab. Wife who put husband in doghouse soon find him in cathouse. Man who fight with wife all day get no piece at night. Man who walk through airport door sideways is going to Bangkok.. Woman who dance while wearing jock strap have make believe ballroom. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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LOL! Thanks for the New Year’s chuckles…

You’re welcome, Rita. And Happy New Years!  ;) Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Turning on people

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You may wonder why I turned on m (gravity) and called him shallow and superficial (or there again you may not!) but this was due to the denial of what is called a *universal truth* or *universal law*. No one has the *right* to have kicks.  But the vulnerable, weak and helpless have a *right* to be protected. If there is a substance (say a drug) which gives a certain percentage of the population a high, or kicks BUT at the same time, a few people are driven to insanity and torment by this substance – then the Universal Law states that it is those who are driven to insanity that must be protected and they do not side with the majority’s *right* to have kicks. By stating that he considered his right to have kicks was stronger than the Law of protecting the vulnerable, m (gravity) proved to us that he was shallow and superficial and does not know the basics.

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"Soul Doubt" <n…@nowhere.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HGK7e.113$2X2.59@okepread06… > Hi Michelle, at least you have a soul, ;) > I doubt that I have one. > It is nice that Damo seems to think I do, but I cannot agree. > I have transgressed into areas I should not have ventured.  Asked WHY too > many times for my own good. > I believe I have a brain and this brain creates a series of perceptions > which I can cummulatively call consciousness.  But a soul, I just don’t

get What is that I that perceives that ?! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> it.  Never have.  Don’t seem to have one,  unless of course there is > reincarnation.  Then I may have a soul, but I think it is JFK’s, and he can > have it back. > jerasmus

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When the Motorcycle Helmet Laws were first appearing the argument went that the number of vegatables living on state provided room,board, and medical support justified making helmets mandatory. Of course if I just prefer not wearing a helmet, thats too bad. I have to be socially responsible and not become a vegatable. This may seem like the end of the story but its not. These days they add up the lost work time due to colds, skating mishaps, boating mshaps and etc. Then, for example, they try to pass laws mandating elbow, knee, and head protection must be worn if you put on a pair of skates. This is because of "school days lost" due to kids whacking their elbow in a fall. "Lost school days" due to skating accidents? So now protective gear is mandated for all? They won’t allow you to put glass in a screen door. It has to be plexiglass. Thats because if the door should slam the glass will break. All restaurants, under state law, must have these pastic tubes fit over their flourescent lights. Why? Because if the bulb should break the glass will fall into the food. Anybody follow this? If a glass thing breaks and falls into the food the restraunteur will feed it to people anyway? I agree that there are dangerous things and there is a need to regulate dangerous things. But………..the body politic can be really wierd at times. I support the motorcycle helmet laws. I’m sure that jock straps are useful for all school sports, I guess, but I would be curious to see the study that mandated jock straps for school atheletics. I was in sixth grade when I had to wear a jock strap for playing basketball in a little kids league. At first I thought it was some kind of protective hat…….

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"hood" <h…@nowhere.com> wrote in message

news:mQG7e.3481$WP4.3332@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net… > No one has the *right* to have kicks.  But the vulnerable, weak and > helpless > have a *right* to be protected.

If you were a six-foot rugby star, with perfect physical health, no mental problems of any kind, and loads of money to spend on anything you wanted, would you still feel this way? -:(TT):-

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:) "Turbo Turnip" <veg…@garden.xx> wrote in message

news:115v2jip50oae59@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "hood" <h…@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:mQG7e.3481$WP4.3332@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net… >> No one has the *right* to have kicks.  But the vulnerable, weak and >> helpless >> have a *right* to be protected. > If you were a six-foot rugby star, with perfect physical health, no mental > problems of any kind, and loads of money to spend on anything you wanted, > would you still feel this way? > -:(TT):-

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"Turbo Turnip" <veg…@garden.xx> wrote in message

news:115v2jip50oae59@corp.supernews.com… > "hood" <h…@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:mQG7e.3481$WP4.3332@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net… > > No one has the *right* to have kicks.  But the vulnerable, weak and > > helpless > > have a *right* to be protected. > If you were a six-foot rugby star, with perfect physical health, no mental > problems of any kind, and loads of money to spend on anything you wanted, > would you still feel this way?

Yes, it is called compassion.

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"Too much is never enough!" —MTV  1985

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Hi Michelle, at least you have a soul, ;) I doubt that I have one. It is nice that Damo seems to think I do, but I cannot agree. I have transgressed into areas I should not have ventured.  Asked WHY too many times for my own good. I believe I have a brain and this brain creates a series of perceptions which I can cummulatively call consciousness.  But a soul, I just don’t get it.  Never have.  Don’t seem to have one,  unless of course there is reincarnation.  Then I may have a soul, but I think it is JFK’s, and he can have it back. jerasmus

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Day 5 after V

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I wore a jock for 7 weeks. Even sometimes in the evening laying on the couch I needed it. I wouldn’t have been able to work without it, or at least with any sort of comfort. Odd thing — I didn’t get better gradually, as one would expect. For 7 long weeks I thought "this is it for the rest of my life." Then within a matter of 2 or 3 days, I felt much better and haven’t used the strap since. (that was around Christmas time.) As for the lump, the sheet my doc gave me mentioned something about that, and to not be concerned initially. As I recall, it is more or less normal, although I never had it.

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Day 14 for me and starting to get concerned.  How long do you think you should wait before going back to the doctor to have excessive pain checked out?   I don’t want to be a wimp but I’m starting to think things aren’t quite right here.   My balls still ache all the time. Sometimes better, sometimes worse but always there.  Like a never ending dull pain that increases and decreases in waves.  I also have a lump that has formed at the base of my shaft of the left side.  It is pretty big (like Oliver jellybean size) and extremely painful to the touch.  I have read many of the posts in here and have no idea if this could be epidydimus, sperm granuloma, or a hematoma of some kind but it is very round and not near my balls at all.   Was just about ready to call the doctor but thought I would check this site out first for answers.   Of course I am sitting here thinking the worst, that I will be the 1 in 200 that ends up with PVP. OIiver, it has been 10 days since your last post, have things improved for you.  Your experence sounds the most similar to my own.  From what I gather it is not unusual for the pain to last a long time.

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Oliver Barton wrote: > Can walk without pain, only get a sharp aching type of pain (like i’ve been > kicked) when i move in certain ways.

I found the jockstrap a big help with this.  I even wore it to bed for awhile, since otherwise i’d turn wrong in my sleep and wake up.  (Of course, with it, I’d wake up sometimes from night wood…) trifold www.vasectomy-information.com

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Rick wrote: > I had decided to wait a couple of days to see if maybe my lump > might get better with the improved support of the jock.  Well, it > hasn’t, it didn’t get any bigger but it didn’t get smaller either and > it is still very painful when touched.  I will go back to the urologist > and see what he thinks and then I will let you guys know what he

says. Thanks.  Sounds like granuloma to me.  I think a hematoma would get bigger.  We look forward to hearing more.  (Glad the jock is helping.) trifold www.vasectomy-information.com

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Hey Rick,  I think you should call the doctor.  The lump sounds to me like a sperm granuloma, but hey, what do I know?  In the meantime, you might try ibuprofin or other anti-imflammatories.  Do hotbaths work? And I wonder if you are still wearing a jockstrap.  These are suggestions for dealing with the pain now.   But my main advice is to call him up.  My doctor scheduled me for a routine look-see one week after.  Then used each of the 2 semen check appointments to have another look and to ask how I was doing.  So I don’t think it’s that unusual for patients to need some follow up.  Besides, you are in pain! Give him a call!  And please let us know what you find out. trifold www.vasectomy-information.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -That Rick wrote: > Day 14 for me and starting to get concerned.  How long do you think you > should wait before going back to the doctor to have excessive pain > checked out?   I don’t want to be a wimp but I’m starting to think > things aren’t quite right here.   My balls still ache all the time. > Sometimes better, sometimes worse but always there.  Like a never > ending dull pain that increases and decreases in waves.  I also have a > lump that has formed at the base of my shaft of the left side.  It is > pretty big (like Oliver jellybean size) and extremely painful to the > touch.  I have read many of the posts in here and have no idea if this > could be epidydimus, sperm granuloma, or a hematoma of some kind but it > is very round and not near my balls at all.   Was just about ready to > call the doctor but thought I would check this site out first for > answers.   Of course I am sitting here thinking the worst, that I will > be the 1 in 200 that ends up with PVP. > OIiver, it has been 10 days since your last post, have things improved > for you.  Your experence sounds the most similar to my own.  From what > I gather it is not unusual for the pain to last a long time.

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Can walk without pain, only get a sharp aching type of pain (like i’ve been kicked) when i move in certain ways. Hard jelly bean thing on my right testicle (at the site of the incisision) is still there. Not getting any bigger though. It almost feels like i can feel the tube because there is another hard lump (much smaller) just below it. Anyway, thanks for all the advice etc !!

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I got a jockstrap today and couldn’t believe how much better it felt ! No pain at all when I had that on ! Still concerned about this jelly bean sized lump at the incision site but hopefully it’ll sort itself out… <trifo…@netscape.net> wrote in message

news:1106331277.029849.53660@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oliver Barton wrote: >> Can walk without pain, only get a sharp aching type of pain (like > i’ve been >> kicked) when i move in certain ways. > I found the jockstrap a big help with this.  I even wore it to bed for > awhile, since otherwise i’d turn wrong in my sleep and wake up.  (Of > course, with it, I’d wake up sometimes from night wood…) > trifold > www.vasectomy-information.com

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Hey guys, Rick here again and thanks for your advice.  A hyperlink to this site should be included in the documents you get from the doctor when considering a vasectomy.  The information and experiences presented here are invaluable.   I purchased a jock strap before my procedure, as requested, but didn’t use it.  My urologist, told me it was just to hold the dressing in place over the incision so they didn’t have to use tape.  For the last two weeks I tried loose fitting and tight underwear but found that the tight underwear actually caused more pain then the loose ones so I didn’t even think about using the jock till I can here and learned from your experiences.  Started wearing the jock on Monday and have only taken it off to wash it.   BOY THIS FEELS MUCH MUCH BETTER.  There is still pain but very much reduced with the jock.  I had decided to wait a couple of days to see if maybe my lump might get better with the improved support of the jock.  Well, it hasn’t, it didn’t get any bigger but it didn’t get smaller either and it is still very painful when touched.  I will go back to the urologist and see what he thinks and then I will let you guys know what he says.

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Rick: I would not hesitate to call your doc. I had a blowout 6 days post-V, it felt like getting kicked in the left nut. I had more or less constant, varying levels of pain/ache/discomfort for 7 (LONG) weeks, and I thought I would also be one of the unfortunate ones. Thanksgiving week (3 weeks post-V) I had 2-3 days where I felt pretty normal, then the ache/discomfort came back again. That was VERY depressing. Then in the 7th week, within a day or two, I felt nearly normal, and have felt 100% since then which was 4 weeks ago. I think I’m over the hump, although I was told that I could have another blowout anytime. I never had the lump that you describe, although as I mentioned earlier, I don’t think it is unusual.

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how long off work

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Karen Ray-Stewart wrote: > How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is wondering how > long he will need to be off…  at the first appointment we went to the dr. > said he would do it on a Friday and he would be right back to work on > Monday.  DH is concerned though because with his job he is on his feet for 7 > hours straight. > Karen

Vas on Tuesday, on the couch all day on Wednesday, back at work on Thursday. Reversal on Thursday, off on Friday, in bed all weekend, back at work (too soon) on Monday….

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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:38:50 -0500, "Karen Ray-Stewart" <karen.ray-stew…@sympatico.ca> wrote: >How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??

I went house hunting with a realtor exactly one week after my vas. This entailed driving around and exploring about 15 houses/day for several days.  Over those few days I took many steps gingerly but managed to survive. I’m guessing the 2-3 day rest period would suffice for most people but I’d prefer at least 3-5 days before any mandatory work.  Using a jock strap for the first couple of weeks makes a huge difference.

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This is day 5 for me and still have alot of pain. I thought I would only need a weekend off, but I know better now. I would say a week. Good luck

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"Steve" <join…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:1104982388.120508.314320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Karen Ray-Stewart wrote: >> How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is > wondering how >> long he will need to be off…  at the first appointment we went to > the dr. >> said he would do it on a Friday and he would be right back to work on >> Monday.  DH is concerned though because with his job he is on his > feet for 7 >> hours straight. >> Karen > Vas on Tuesday, on the couch all day on Wednesday, back at work on > Thursday. > Reversal on Thursday, off on Friday, in bed all weekend, back at work > (too soon) on Monday….

Why the reversal, might I ask?

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> How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is wondering > how > long he will need to be off…  at the first appointment we went to the > dr. said he would do it on a Friday and he would be right back to work on > Monday.  DH is concerned though because with his job he is on his feet for > 7 hours straight. > Karen

I had mine done on the Thursday, and was back to work on the Monday. My job at the time involved a fair amount of driving, and movement in between.  It just depends on what he does at his job, and how it goes on the day. There isn’t a right or wrong way to approach this, and I do know that not all bosses/jobs are particularly accomodating.  But it might be an idea to let the boss know that he is having it done, and say he intends to be back on the Monday. But pre-warn him that it may be necessary to take more time off so that the boss can plan accordingly. David www.vasectomy-information.com

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"Karen Ray-Stewart" <karen.ray-stew…@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

news:XoBCd.24596$P%3.1149241@news20.bellglobal.com… > How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is wondering > how long he will need to be off…  at the first appointment we went to > the dr. said he would do it on a Friday and he would be right back to work > on Monday.  DH is concerned though because with his job he is on his feet > for 7 hours straight. > Karen

I think David gave a great suggestion. I had mine a few weeks ago and it was 5 days before I could stay on my feet for long periods of time without major discomfort. A couple of more days before I would even think about doing any type of manual labor for work. If he’s just on his feet lke in sales or something, then that’s one thing. In that case he could probably suck it up and be back to work on Monday no problem. But if he’s doing any lifting/labor etc then I surely wouldn’t want to be him that Monday : ) Really though from the people I’ve spoken with, I was in the minority in terms of recovery – most guys it seems are back to work right away.

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This question finally caused me to look at a calendar.  I thought I had the op on a Friday.  In fact, it was a Thursday.  I took the next day off, then had 2 more to recover before going back to work.  My job is mostly at a desk, with occasional trips up and down stairs for various meetings.  The stairs were a challenge the first few days back (although a jockstrap helped).  I’d say if he has to do any serious body work he should leave himself the option of taking the Monday off, as David says.  (And he should certainly ice down right after the op and wear a jockstrap:  this will keep down swelling and make for a quicker recovery.  Plus, he should continue wearing the strap to work till he feels he’s back to 100%:  the strap takes the fear out of stairs, among other things!) trifold www.vasectomy-information.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Karen Ray-Stewart wrote: > How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is wondering how > long he will need to be off…  at the first appointment we went to the dr. > said he would do it on a Friday and he would be right back to work on > Monday.  DH is concerned though because with his job he is on his feet for 7 > hours straight. > Karen

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"Karen Ray-Stewart" <karen.ray-stew…@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:XoBCd.24596$P%3.1149241@news20.bellglobal.com: Hi Karen > How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is

Off work? Luxury :-) Op at 1600, sex at 2100, back at work next day, no pain killers, bit of discomfort but no worries, confirmed sterile two weeks later… Retro

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Karen Ray-Stewart wrote: > How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is wondering how > long he will need to be off…  at the first appointment we went to the dr. > said he would do it on a Friday and he would be right back to work on > Monday.  DH is concerned though because with his job he is on his feet for 7 > hours straight. > Karen

Karen, Like your husband’s job, mine can require long hours on my feet. Luckily, I was able to stay at a desk most of the time immediately after my procedure, and I could sit down whenever I became uncomfortable.  I could feel irritation developing after walking too much the week after the operation.  Even moderately strenuous lifting and exertion was out of the question.  Occasionally, it caused intense pain.  If your husband doesn’t have the latitude to get off of his feet as needed, I’d recommend at least a week off.   Regards, Ferdinand

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -mark wrote: > "Steve" <join…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:1104982388.120508.314320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… > > Karen Ray-Stewart wrote: > >> How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is > > wondering how > >> long he will need to be off…  at the first appointment we went to > > the dr. > >> said he would do it on a Friday and he would be right back to work on > >> Monday.  DH is concerned though because with his job he is on his > > feet for 7 > >> hours straight. > >> Karen > > Vas on Tuesday, on the couch all day on Wednesday, back at work on > > Thursday. > > Reversal on Thursday, off on Friday, in bed all weekend, back at work > > (too soon) on Monday…. > Why the reversal, might I ask?

Oh…long story… short story is I drew the PVP lottery, much to my uninformed amazement and chagrin.  Reversal was after 2.5 years of chronic testicular pain.  See my story at www.vasectomy-information.com in the reversal section, Steve and Lisa….

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Retro wrote: > "Karen Ray-Stewart" <karen.ray-stew…@sympatico.ca> wrote in > news:XoBCd.24596$P%3.1149241@news20.bellglobal.com: > Hi Karen > > How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is > Off work? Luxury :-) > Op at 1600, sex at 2100, back at work next day, no > pain killers, bit of discomfort but no worries, > confirmed sterile two weeks later… > Retro

Hey Retro,  This has got to be a record on several "fronts"  I ejac’ed the first night–but not after only 5 hours!  And 2 weeks for the all clear is really good time.  You must have had a lot of good times getting there that fast.  BTW, which procedure did you have.  And did you have to give 2 clear samples, or just one? trifold www.vasectomy-information.com c

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How long were you off work for after your vasectomy ??  Dh is wondering how long he will need to be off…  at the first appointment we went to the dr. said he would do it on a Friday and he would be right back to work on Monday.  DH is concerned though because with his job he is on his feet for 7 hours straight. Karen

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Naming of the Jock

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they were first designed for guys who raced bicycles, who were called bicycle jockeys.  So, the garment was called a jockey strap, which got shortened to jock strap.

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But no one has answered the question of why athletics are called "Jocks". Everyone assumes that the reason is because they wear a jock strap. However, if you had bicycle  jockeys and probably horse jockeys before the invention of the jock strap, did the nickname "jock" exist before also. Sort of like the chicken and egg question.  What came first, the word jock or the jock strap. "Drtyunders" <drtyund…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20041211231201.06183.00001174@mb-m27.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> they were first designed for guys who raced bicycles, who were called bicycle > jockeys.  So, the garment was called a jockey strap, which got shortened to > jock strap.

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I had read another account of the origin of the word "jockstrap". Apparently in Medieval England the slang word for a man’s cock and balls was his "jock", and so that was another explanation that jockstrap was literally a strap for the "jock"

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It was answered. The jockey strap came first.  Later it was adopted by athlete’s playing sports for support.  Since most athelte’s wore jocks they soon were called that.  I believe at the beginning it was more a derogatory statement than a compliment.

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In article <na-dnY7vCpqFFSHcRVn…@rogers.com>,  "dleebosh1032" <dleebosh1…@rogers.com> wrote: > I had read another account of the origin of the word "jockstrap". > Apparently in Medieval England the slang word for a man’s cock and balls was > his "jock", and so that was another explanation that jockstrap was literally > a strap for the "jock"

I’ve seen that a lot, but I don’t know if it was made up as an explanation for the origin of the phrase "jock strap." Do we have any references in Chaucer or Shakespeare for that? I don’t think that a medieval use would suddenly reappear after the invention of the jockey strap. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com>     jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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I believe the other guy was correct. Hence the bicycle wheel symbol that Bike used as their trade mark for decades. "Jockwoof" <jockw…@NOtimberSPAMwoof.com> wrote in message

news:jockwoof-6E2377.00175711122004@typhoon.sonic.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <78alr0tfb5pe5lqulqvvq0a7ca60g8j…@4ax.com>, >  Jock boy <wikkid_de…@lycosNOSPAM.co.uk> wrote: > > I know this soundz like Firedproof but why ia a Jock strap called a > > jock strap? I thought jocks [people] were called after the strap. > > Besides a Jock in the UK means a Scotsman and they are proud not to > > wear anything under thier kilts!! > I think that jock strap is shortened from jockey strap, referring to horse > jockeys who liked to wear them, perhaps because they are an improvement over the > earlier suspensory. > I’ve read etymologies that suggest that "jocks" is a slang word for the balls, > but I’ve never come across that specific usage. > — > Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com> >   jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ > charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml >     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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Back in early America streets were coble stone and people rode the bikes with the really big front wheels.  They were called bicycle jockies.  The coble stones hurt their testicles so the "Bike Company" produced a "jockey strap" for bicycle Jockies.  Later it was shotened to Jock Strap.  Then just jock. There you have the short version of it.

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In article <78alr0tfb5pe5lqulqvvq0a7ca60g8j…@4ax.com>,  Jock boy <wikkid_de…@lycosNOSPAM.co.uk> wrote: > I know this soundz like Firedproof but why ia a Jock strap called a > jock strap? I thought jocks [people] were called after the strap. > Besides a Jock in the UK means a Scotsman and they are proud not to > wear anything under thier kilts!!

I think that jock strap is shortened from jockey strap, referring to horse jockeys who liked to wear them, perhaps because they are an improvement over the earlier suspensory. I’ve read etymologies that suggest that "jocks" is a slang word for the balls, but I’ve never come across that specific usage. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com>     jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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Another great reason to be a jock since I have some Scot in me! SportsGearGuy 64 sounds right on the money with the genesis of the product. BIG WOOFS to all, stay strapped!  (Duke Team jock here, 24/7) "Jock boy" <wikkid_de…@lycosNOSPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

news:78alr0tfb5pe5lqulqvvq0a7ca60g8jthk@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I know this soundz like Firedproof but why ia a Jock strap called a > jock strap? I thought jocks [people] were called after the strap. > Besides a Jock in the UK means a Scotsman and they are proud not to > wear anything under thier kilts!!

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I know this soundz like Firedproof but why ia a Jock strap called a jock strap? I thought jocks [people] were called after the strap. Besides a Jock in the UK means a Scotsman and they are proud not to wear anything under thier kilts!!

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?

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In article <20041207192155.10404.00001…@mb-m25.aol.com>,  sportsgeargu…@aol.com (SportsGearGuy 64) wrote: > Maybe I could embroider some crosses and crucifixes on jock straps and sell > them > on eBay. Who’s the patron saint of the wobbly bits? Isn’t it St. Andrew? > Wouldn’t that be St Peter?

You should learn Catholic iconography. There si a famous, famous painting of St. Andrew on the cross, with lots of arrows in him, and a really big and shapely basket. Many Catholic boys obsessed over that picture. Let me see if I can find it on the net.   Well, rats. I can’t find it. (Please learn to quote correctly. I wrote the two sentences that begin with Maybe. The way you posted your article, it looked like you wrote them.) — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com>     jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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"SportsGearGuy 64" <sportsgeargu…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20041207192155.10404.00001069@mb-m25.aol.com… > Maybe I could embroider some crosses and crucifixes on jock straps and sell > them > on eBay. Who’s the patron saint of the wobbly bits? Isn’t it St. Andrew? > Wouldn’t that be St Peter?

Or his brother, St. Ball… Tim

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As a baseball player, I suspect Jesus had to be  wearing a cup to have the nerve to step in front of that angry mob and say "Let thee without sin cast the first stone!"

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Why do people get so uptight about non-topoic posts/spam? Yeah it’s a pain in the arse but you can always block the sender of stuff you don’t like. It never ceases to amaze me that .coms send out pics of girlies to US in the hope we’ll sign up to their porn sites…dream on. Gone beyond getting angry…it happens to every site/group except those that are moderated properly..so I just ignore the shit or block the fuckers. Let’s face it..the moment your eyes alight on a hot pic of a hot bod in a jock..everything else is soon forgotten! By the way..I posted a note saying I couldn’t see HOW to see the pics people were referring to..new to Newsgroups and they’re not as straightforward as Yahoo/MSN..but now I can see them…Oh happy day!

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A baseball player eh? So get out your digital camera…drop your pants and show us your arse in a jock. Was in Minneapolis last year visiting relatives..their oldest son – a distant cousin –  plays college baseball. The cousin is, sadly, no looker but his team-mates…jeez! My eyes kept wandering down..couldn’t believe those bulges under their pants…those boxes (you call them cups) really look good on some guys. Some of the amateurs are WAY hotter than the pro players. I like ‘em tall..I’m 6′5" which is fairly rare in England..so I was in sexpig heaven. If there is anyone out there who lives in Duluth Minnesota..you have my sincerest commiserations..the MOST boring place I have ever visited. If there was ANY action going on there..I couldn’t find it.

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Did I join a Bible group, or a jock-strap group? Not that there’s anything wrong with that!

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In article <Auatd.13976$l%5.736…@news20.bellglobal.com>,  "RP" <well_w…@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Did I join a Bible group, or a jock-strap group? > Not that there’s anything wrong with that!

Look carefully at what groups a post is cross-posted to. Someone else just explained about some spammer who’s been posting randomly generated crap in an effort to stir up shit. Recognize the trolling for what it is and ignore it. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com>     jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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There is room for the Bible in this newsgroup.  After all, doesn’t the Bible say something to the effect that any man with crushed testicles or a damaged penis cannot enter the kingdom of God.  What would Jesus wear?  

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In article <2538-41B5C9B0-…@storefull-3316.bay.webtv.net>,  GabeR…@webtv.net (Gabe R) wrote: > There is room for the Bible in this newsgroup.  After all, doesn’t the > Bible say something to the effect that any man with crushed testicles or > a damaged penis cannot enter the kingdom of God.  

Maybe I could embroider some crosses and crucifixes on jock straps and sell them on eBay. Who’s the patron saint of the wobbly bits? Isn’t it St. Andrew? > What would Jesus wear?  

A loin cloth. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com>     jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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Maybe I could embroider some crosses and crucifixes on jock straps and sell them on eBay. Who’s the patron saint of the wobbly bits? Isn’t it St. Andrew? Wouldn’t that be St Peter?

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Suspensory recommendation?

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Does anyone have a recommendation for a good suspensory? Thanks.

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sexout…@webtv.net says… > Does anyone have a recommendation for a good suspensory? Thanks.

Just remember when you go to buy one, the size is the size of your scrotum, not your waist. I’ve worn the Futuro (no leg straps) and the Bauer & Black (leg straps). Both are comfortable for me. I’ve heard that the Futuro doesn’t work too well for someone who is light in the ball department. A scrotum (with testicles) needs to hang to hold the Futuro in place. The same problem does not apply to a suspensory with leg straps. — JockstrapX I like jockstraps, the men who wear them, and what men keep in them.

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sexout…@webtv.net wrote in message <news:4096-4194F804-437@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net>… > Does anyone have a recommendation for a good suspensory? Thanks.

  Go to the International Jock web site and see the great selection of suspensories there. The Go Softwear Suspensory Jock Strap looks good. If you have balls on the large size, you may want to get a suspensory with a large pouch.   Thom in DC

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Thom. in DC wrote: > sexout…@webtv.net wrote in message <news:4096-4194F804-437@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net>… >>Does anyone have a recommendation for a good suspensory? Thanks. >   Go to the International Jock web site and see the great selection of > suspensories there. The Go Softwear Suspensory Jock Strap looks good. > If you have balls on the large size, you may want to get a suspensory > with a large pouch. >   Thom in DC

Got to love those big bull balls. —         -Seancito         -Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. (Sigmund Freud)

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Polo Jock Strap

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Anyone try out the new Polo Jock Strap.  It looks cool but a bit pricey at $17

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In article <20041107235552.10502.00000…@mb-m25.aol.com>,  mark…@aol.com (Markvac) wrote: > Anyone try out the new Polo Jock Strap.  It looks cool but a bit pricey at $17

$17 for a jock strap? Yikes! It better be all-cotton, spandex, tight, smooth, soft, rugged, and include an impenetrable soft cup. — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com>     jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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where is it avalible at

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EVERYDAY JOCKSTRAP

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"Jockwoof" <jockw…@NOtimberSPAMwoof.com> wrote in message

news:jockwoof-551CBE.18494322102004@typhoon.sonic.net… > Sometimes I wear three or more layers: jock strap, boxer shorts, cup supporter > with cup, shorts.   }: )    :p

Must make taking a leak a real adventure! :) Tim

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In article <20041020202817.25923.00002…@mb-m03.aol.com>,  bsmart6…@aol.com (Bsmart6678) wrote: > I know one or two guys who wear a jock every day and they have no problem > changing in the lockeroom and putting on a clean jock after practice or a > game. Most guys however seem to prefer boxers although a few wear briefs > under their boxers. I never figured that one out.

Maybe they like the support of the brief but haven’t thought of wearing a jock instead? I wonder what it is about boxers — why do guys who wear boxers sometimes act as though boxers are "manly" while briefs are for boys? (Personally I like jocks and boxer shorts, but I don’t really have an opinion one way or another about other men’s underwear.) > I don’t know why more guys don’t wear jocks for daily underware, One you get > used to them you won’t go without without your jock. I like the Bike black > jock best and a Bike cup for baseball.

Yeppers! — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com>     jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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"(Personally I like jocks and boxer shorts, …together? why?  but I don’t really have an opinion one way or another about other men’s underwear.)" …I do…the less the better

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In article <22847-417967A7-1…@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>,  JOCKnJE…@webtv.net (JOCK) wrote: > "(Personally I like jocks and boxer shorts, > …together? why? >  but I don’t really have an opinion one way or another about other men’s > underwear.)" > …I do…the less the better

Sometimes I wear three or more layers: jock strap, boxer shorts, cup supporter with cup, shorts.   }: )    :p — Jockwoof <jockwoof at timberwoof dot com>     jocks: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/ charter: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/charter.shtml     FAQ: http://www.timberwoof.com/jockwoof/faq.shtml

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I read with interest the posts regarding wearing a jock everyday and can identify with the guy who grew up on a farm. He started wearing a jock everyday  when he was in Junior High School. My Dad gave me several jocks when I started to play baseball. As I got older, in H.S. I found a jock was a lot more comfortable than briefs and certainy boxers. I started to wear a jock almost  every day and eventually all day every day. It is just a matter of comfort for me, I worked construction in the summers and really appreciated the support. I know one or two guys who wear a jock every day and they have no problem changing in the lockeroom and putting on a clean jock after practice or a game. Most guys however seem to prefer boxers although a few wear briefs under their boxers. I never figured that one out. I don’t know why more guys don’t wear jocks for daily underware, One you get used to them you won’t go without without your jock. I like the Bike black jock best and a Bike cup for baseball. Zack

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